Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!uc!shamash!tank!her3@tank From: her3@tank (in the land of nod) Newsgroups: alt.sex Subject: Re: What celibacy is and is not... Message-ID: <7262@tank.uchicago.edu> Date: 17 Jan 90 23:53:55 GMT Sender: news@tank.uchicago.edu Reply-To: her3@tank.uchicago.edu (Ben) Organization: Totally disorganized Lines: 45 In article <12478@burdvax.PRC.Unisys.COM> raf@PRC.Unisys.COM (Ralph A. Foy) writes: d:->Well, I am no longer a seminarian, but was a member of a Catholic d:->religious order for about six years.... and yup, I took the Big Three. d:->However, the vows are poverty, CHASTITY, and obedience. The fine d:->print for the "c" word is mentioned during the profession ceremony d:->where one agrees that said chaste lifestyle means celebacy. d:-> d:->of celibacy upon him. If the Pope-guy wakes up tomorrow and says that d:->priests can get married they can get hitched in a sec. Those who are d:->in orders are SOL, though, since their vows were for life. d:-> d:-> d:->missionaries weren't even allowed to do it!) d:->Ralph Foy, xOSA Well a little known portion of the Church (known as the orthodox church) has married priests (the missionaries you talk about) They must be married before taking their vows but the Pope-guy recognizes them even if they do not recognize the authority of the pope ( they have a patriarch in Turkey or constantinople or someplace). There are stories of these Greek priests being sent to wisc. with their long beards, their wives and children, to be spiritual leaders and the Bishop (Dioses?) had a fit as did a lot of the population. Ok, the gist was they take the same vows. And can have sex. (maybe I should leave for rec.religion 8-]) The sex part. I tell you there is nothing you can do. My SO left me because I was too big for her. She said I made her feel like a virgin everytime (no matter what lube we used). I finally came to the point where she had to see the doctor. (everytime we made love I made her bleed) she decided It was better to find someone less dangerous and I'm looking for a larger woman. who says you can't be too big, yes a woman passes a baby but she isn't really to happy about it I've seen it happen. (whooo.... just had to fill that sex requirement.) Ben ---------------------------- Sorry if this was too inarticulate I'm in a rush. My opinions are mine the opinions that aren't mine can be claimed at the door. -----------