Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!srcsip!nic.MR.NET!thor.acc.stolaf.edu!agnes.acc.stolaf.edu!seebs From: seebs@agnes.acc.stolaf.edu (The Laughing Prophet) Newsgroups: alt.sex Subject: Re: Group Marriages Message-ID: <10686@thor.acc.stolaf.edu> Date: 19 Jan 90 05:06:02 GMT References: <70587@tiger.oxy.edu> <7476@chaph.usc.edu> Sender: news@thor.acc.stolaf.edu Reply-To: seebs@agnes.stolaf.edu (The Laughing Prophet) Organization: Followers of the Jigging Cat Lines: 67 In article <7476@chaph.usc.edu> avenell@koh-sun5.usc.edu (Talon) writes: >I suggest that group marriages are a bad idea for the following >reason: >1) Competition. When dealing with such an intimate type of >realationship, the involvement of more than one spouse will develop >striff, dissent, jealous, envy, and greed. Furthermore, the >individuals will invariably be placed on a performance basis. As in, >the one who puts out the best will derive the greatest favoritism. Bullshit. Ever hear of *friendship*? That's the basis of a good relationship. And it has *nothing* to do with who puts out the best. I place my lovers based on: 1] who's around at the moment 2] who I *haven't* been with as much (and) 3] keeping things *equal*. Why should they compete? Both of them have my love, and they know that. If they want more than that, they ask. If the request is reasonable, I do my best to grant it. This seems to work quite nicely. And I really don't *give a shit* if they don't put out. I'm not asking for handouts. If we make love, it's because *everyone* involved wants to. And who wants to more often doesn't matter. There is more to love than sex, as you very well know. >2) Commitment. The most significant feature and benefit of marriage >is commitment. If there are more than one spouse, one cannot say, "I >commitment to you". Conflict of interest will soon become the >standard for the participants. Once again: Bullshit. "I commitment to you" is presumably to be read as "I am committed to you," or "I have a commitment to you." COMMITMENT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE EXCLUSIVE. I have a natural tendancy for dedication and commitment. There are *many* people I have commitments to. There is no conflict of interest here. We are all friends - we look out for each other's interests. Is this so hard to do? >3) Direction. Decision-making processes will be skewed by the great >quantities of opinions. This will hinder crucial decisions which >invariably arise in the future, for example, child development, >finances, sexual relationships (related topic like birth control and >abortion), etc. Well, with only three people involved, we can just use a "majority rules" (and the majority happens to most often be my lovers ruling "against" me. Like I'm complaining.) system. >I will probably think of some more reasons later. Frank, I respect your intelligence. However, this posting has been far below your standards. Would everyone like to hear what *is* a problem for group marriages/ relationships? Social Pressure to conform. Yup. That's it. Anything else can be overcome by a little bit of love and compassion, combined with tolerance. >Frank "Talon" Avenell avenell@usc.edu --SeebS-- Kilroy the Prophet... Anonymous posting service here... seebs@acc.stolaf.edu Disclaimer: if(!mine(me->opinions)) shoot(me); "Got a wife in Cheno babe, and one in Cherokee..." --GD --SeebS-- (Peter Seebach) Fighting for love in a somber world...