Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!sun-barr!newstop!male!warpten!harryu From: harryu@warpten.Central.Sun.COM (Harry Ugol) Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage Subject: Re: sounds and shocks Message-ID: <1072@male.EBay.Sun.COM> Date: 18 Jan 90 02:47:17 GMT References: <959@n7kbt.WA.COM> Sender: news@male.EBay.Sun.COM Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Lines: 153 I was hoping someone with more experience with sounds would post a followup to this set of questions, but apparently no such luck. This is as much as I know. In article <959@n7kbt.WA.COM> post-to-asb@n7kbt.WA.COM writes: >A little while ago Harry Ugol mentioned some fun involving his friend Eggplant: > the simultaneous > application of sounds (medical instruments; they're basically > stainless steel rods inserted up the urethra),... >I'd like to know more about these. Is this something you're best off going to >a medical supply place for or can you reasonably make your own if you have >access stainless rod and a machine shop? The sounds I've seen have a curve most of the way towards one end; I think this curve is necessary to fit around one of the kinks at the base of the cock. In general, with something this potentially dangerous, I'd play it safe and go with the professionally-manufactured stuff. If they're not available from medical supply shops, or not without a license or some such (I still haven't made it to a medical supply, in spite of vague intentions to do just that - probably just as well; the first trip will no doubt play havoc my bank balance), they're sold by Desmodius, the company that publishes *Drummer* magazine. I forget the address (which just changed, too - earthquake damage to the previous building), but there's always a big mail-order ad in the back pages of each issue of *Drummer*. If people don't have access to *Drummer*, they can email me and I'll send them the address. > How long are they? I've seen them on display at Desmodius; they were slightly less than a foot long. > How stiff? They looked to be pure surgical stainless steel. I assume that's a sufficient answer to your question; I don't know if they're more or less flexible than, say, an equivalent rod of aluminum :-). >What >diameter It varies. The smaller ones were perhaps 3-4 mm in diameter; they go up to someplace past the diameter of your pinky finger. > (and why did you use "sounds" plural rather than just a thicker one?) They're not inserted more than one at a time, but a session with sounds usually involves starting out small and working up to larger sizes. >I'd especially like to know about safety aspects- How deep can you safely go >with them? Is there any danger of probing delicate internal structures that >aren't designed to be probed? Does anyone out there have direct experience >with them? > I don't, although I'd very much like to. I suspect the answer to these questions is there's minimal danger if you take it slow and careful (as supporting evidence, another one of my housemates has interesting stories about using a coat hanger on himself when he was an adolescent - sometimes I think every leather fairy in the house but me was a precocious teenager. Btw, I think he said he got up to his prostate, which answers another one of your questions), but I for one do not intend to try *anything* in this area except under the supervision of an experienced top - the possible consequences just aren't worth hurrying things. One day... > ...two electricity boxes... ...It's a good thing the electricity box had > plenty of spare capacity... >Once again this all sounds really intriguing, but I really want to hear details >from someone who's done it before I even think about experimenting with it. >About these electrical boxes- what are the voltage, amperage and frequency they >operate at? Don't know; I've never had the opportunity to hook them up to instruments. Most of the boxes I've seen are sold by Desmodius, but the supply is spotty, and they're not always available. One friend of mine has a machine that apparently was salvaged from a (psychiatric?) hospital in the early 60s; it's shaped like an old teletype (i.e. it's a box on legs about 3 feet high) and has a control panel with more dials and meters than you can shake a stick at - you can set frequency, waveform, amplitude (including applying a sinusoidal variation to the amplitude), and other things I don't remember. I want to try that box so badly I can taste it, but haven't yet played in its playroom, and it's not very transportable - it's full of tubes. >Are they battery powered or do they plug in? The Desmodius "Tittilator" boxes take a 9VDC transistor battery. They exhaust it fairly quickly, too. > Is there any risk >of causing nerve damage with them, I suppose there would be eventually, but the process would be exactly like destroying your hearing by constantly listening to loud music. Apply the same policies you've decided for yourself in that area. > and how do you make sure you're not sending >current across the heart? > The rule of thumb is to never attach an electrode above the waist (which leaves plenty of interesting attachment points, believe me - Dr. Tech has a pair of suction cups attached to electrodes; getting them to stick to the testicles is a tricky process, but the results are worth it, believe me. Then there's Steely Dan, the anal probe...). These days various members of Our Little Group have been violating that rule using the Desmodius boxes, and attaching the electrodes to the nipples, but I haven't been close by when that happened, and I don't have the latest info. My friend with the giant tube box says his can be attached to the nipples, and that the frequency can be made fast enough that it does not affect the heart beat - I'm more inclined to belive that. >> Eggplant and Dr. Tech > just kept egging each other on, and Eggplant ended up pulling the > muscles in both inner thighs from electricity-induced involuntary > contractions. What can I say? Eggplant's a pig. >Electrically induced orgasm- wow, what a concept. > >Please tell us folks out here how to do this too! > Although Eggplant didn't cum while on the box (and didn't need to; he was *quite* satisfied as it was - rare for that boy :-), it is indeed possible to drive onesself to orgasm while manipulating only the box's controls. I haven't experienced it personally, and from what I have experienced, I think it would require time and patience and would have to be a solo scene - no one but you yourself would have enough feedback to control the process. It's basically like jacking off; you have to vary the "strokes" (peaks of amplitude) and build it gradually. One other helpful hint from Helo"ise: an awful lot depends upon the attachment points. If the contact between the electrode and the skin covers too little surface, the electrical flux is too concentrated, and it starts acting like a spark - the best description I can use is that it *bites*; it feels like an incredibly fine saw blade. *Not* nice. I've used various piercings, the suction cups, and the anal probe; those were nice. I suspect sounds would be even better. I've had problems with cock rings (spotty contact at the microscopic level), although they could probably be solved with a conducting lubricant (maybe KY? Isn't that glycerin-based?). Harry Ugol UUCP: {backbone}!sun!warpten!harryu ARPA: harryu@Ebay.sun.com "Rivendell household rule #4: Dessert is the most important meal of the day."