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From: bondc@spdcc.COM (Asmodeus)
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Subject: Re: Piercing
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Date: 18 Jan 90 23:53:54 GMT
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In article <1433@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> adam@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Adam Glas
s) writes:

>I believe the guy who posted the original article ("Is this what it
>sounds like?") wanted to know if you were serious about literally
>crucifying someone. I'm not sure if he was interested in breath
>control or not.  Perhaps you can clarify exactly what the cricufixion
>you talked about dealt with.

Crucifixion is a form of bondage in which the support for
the diaphragm is removed so that exhaling requires conscious
effort.  I called it the dangerous end of the spectrum of
breath control because it can result in death.  It is a form
of bondage because the body must be secured in a position
in which the diaphragm has no support.  (This is why the Romans
broke the legs of the victims, btw, because they could not
then hold themselves up to give their diaphragms support.)
People who are into crucifixion scenes as bottoms usually
are for one (or both) of two reasons: the physiological effects
of breath control, and the psychological symbolism involved.

If someone had interpreted 'crucifixion' to mean snuff scenes,
there do exist people who are into the concept as fantasy, and
reportedly some in reality -- on both sides of the teeter-totter.
It was quite obvious from my article that that was *not* what
I was referring to:

>>However dangerous potentially, even crucifixion can be done
>>safely with the proper foreknowledge and precaution.

Note the adverb which begins the second line.  Actual death
scenes can hardly be done safely -- nor, I imagine, would
there be much point in doing so.

Are we all clear, now?

Once again, however, breath control of any kind should only
be attempted with someone who knows what he/she is doing,
and NEVER alone.


-- 
"It is not possible to convey sarcasm to certain members of the
 net without using a 2x4.  The smiley face merely reminds them 
 of why their head is being dented."
					-- John Woods