Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!RUG!DEVOSCM From: DEVOSCM@RUG.NL (Marco de Vos, Kapteyn Lab Groningen) Newsgroups: bit.listserv.christia Subject: RE: Nazi's as Satanists Message-ID: Date: 15 Jan 90 10:41:00 GMT Sender: Practical Christian Life Reply-To: Practical Christian Life Lines: 42 Approved: NETNEWS@PSUVM Gateway X-VMS-To: IN%"CHRISTIA@FINHUTC.BITNET" >>During the Middle >>Ages as well as today, it has been the favorite sign of Satanists. > > I've not once seen any indication of it being used as a sign >of satan. I'd appreciate an example. And references, please. This is just the kind of subject that is easily confused by personal opinions, and (at least to me) it has some importance. >>It is >>also known as Nero's cross, because when Peter was crucified, he asked >>to be crucified upside down since he was not worthy to die as his Master >>had. Nero is said to have granted the request and constructed the cross >>like the peace symbol. > > Question: Was not Peter a great man? Would it not be an honorable >thing for us to wear the symbol of his Crucifixion as well as Christs, > > --Bill I know of a symbol called "Peter's cross", which is indeed just an upside-down cross. It's often used in heraldic pictures, and never had (as far as I know) any connection with Nero, or evil things. So, my big questions: (a) is there a distinction between Nero's cross and Peter's cross (b) are there any reasons for the simple upside-down cross to be transformed into the "peace-symbol", and when did this happen? (c) why is Peter's cross being connected with the evilness of Nero, and tunred into a symbol of evil, wheras Jesus' cross is used as a symbol of grace and salvation? And a minor thing: saying Nero "constructed the cross like a peace symbol" implies the symbol already existed at that time in some form. Is that really meant (I wouldn't think so, but one never knows). Marco.