Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!sundc!newstop!sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!udel!princeton!phoenix!kadickey From: kadickey@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kent Andrew Dickey) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Algorithms, Turing, Semantics Message-ID: <12883@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Date: 13 Jan 90 07:45:53 GMT Organization: Princeton University, NJ Lines: 34 I clearly must be missing something very important to all of these discussions. Therefore, before I spew out my version of the world, I have three questions: 1) Could someone name one process which cannot be broken down into an algorithm? That is, many people have said the mind may not be simulated through an algorith, but personally, no other examples of non-alogorithmical processes occur to me. Please, someone, tell me what obvious example I'm missing. 2) Others have named that current computers are not Turing machines--is this not false? Aren't all digital computer simulatable on a Turing machine? Or again, am I missing something obvious? What's the simplest problem a digital computer can solve that a Turing machine cannot? 3) What is the definition of semantics? Before even attempting to argue that syntax can give rise to semantics, I'd like to here some definitions of what all of you think semantics mean. To me, semantics is just a fancy term (aren't we all fond of using fancy terms) for having a defined meaning--for example, that any time anyone in the universe sees the word "telephone" they would think of a telephone, just like any of us would :-). It seems that nothing in life, through this loose, derived, definition, could ever have any semantics, so please, someone define it for me before I post something I'll regret. As this post may indicate, I have something to say on each of these topics, but wish to avoid the serious Net-gaffe and post something ill- informed. I feel, however, that others may need the same clarification as I, so I am posting this note first. Feel free to either post your responses or send E-Mail, as I will summarize any replies I get. Kent Dickey kadickey@phoenix.Princeton.EDU