Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!wuarchive!rex!ames!uhccux!lee From: lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: The Chinese Room and the Babylonian Bureaucracy Message-ID: <6164@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Date: 14 Jan 90 15:51:48 GMT References: <8527@cbnewsm.ATT.COM> Distribution: usa Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 24 From article <8527@cbnewsm.ATT.COM>, by ele@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (eugene.l.edmon): >... >Well let's see if this works. I make up a new word, say acadedementia, >and tell you what it means. You then know all you need to use >the word correctly. However, if I instead tell you not the meaning >but the syntactic rules associated with use of the word, >you will not be able to use it correctly. It doesn't work. Whether syntactic rules can be sufficient to characterize correct usage is under discussion. In your scenario, you presuppose that the answer is that they cannot. Consequently, as an argument that syntactic rules are not sufficient, this begs the question. A way of phrasing the central difficulty is: Given an incorrect usage, what principles allow one to decide whether the violation is syntactic or semantic in nature? And since rules of usage are typically phrased in terms of co-occurrence of items of certain categories (tokens of certain types), this leads to the question: What is the difference between a syntactic category and a semantic category? Personally, I don't think there are any answers to these questions. Greg, lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu