Xref: utzoo comp.ai:5551 sci.philosophy.tech:1923 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!edcastle!aiai!jeff From: jeff@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Jeff Dalton) Newsgroups: comp.ai,sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Thought and Utility Keywords: decision intention reality metaphor Message-ID: <1553@skye.ed.ac.uk> Date: 15 Jan 90 17:39:54 GMT References: <31821@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> <0cTG02uf793w01@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> <984@metapsy.UUCP> Reply-To: jeff@aiai.UUCP (Jeff Dalton) Organization: AIAI, University of Edinburgh, Scotland Lines: 19 In article <984@metapsy.UUCP> sarge@metapsy.UUCP (Sarge Gerbode) writes: I would agree that the ability to decide (which implies the ability to *intend*) is crucial to the process of understanding. But intending (or deciding) requires a conscious being. It is not enough to say that given condition A, result A' obtains, whereas given condition B, result B' obtains. The same could be said of an eroded hillside: When it rains, you get mudslides; when it doesn't rain, you get cracks. That doesn't mean the hillside is *deciding* anything. It behaves that way because that is the physics of the situation. The same is true of a computer, except that what occurs with a computer is simpler and more predictable. That's a good point, but I think we have to allow for the possibility that we behave as we do because of the physics of the situation too. Dennett's book _Elbow Room_ is worth reading on this point. However, that wouldn't mean intending had to occur at every level, so your point would still be valid. -- Jeff