Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!aplcen!samsung!caesar.cs.montana.edu!ogicse!blake!Tomobiki-Cho!mrc From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: ABI and growth Message-ID: <5344@blake.acs.washington.edu> Date: 16 Jan 90 19:47:17 GMT References: <6186@celit.fps.com> <2020@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> <6197@internal.Apple.COM> Sender: news@blake.acs.washington.edu Organization: Mendou Zaibatsu, Tomobiki-Cho, Butsumetsu-Shi Lines: 27 In article <6197@internal.Apple.COM> desnoyer@apple.com (Peter Desnoyers) writes: >This sounds like a variation on run-time loading. I'm not sure of the >specifics, but I believe some variation on {link in call to loader, load >function on first call, patch stub to jump to loaded function} is used in >[...] TOPS-20. Not that I know of, and I was a TOPS-20 OS programmer for 10 years. It was possible for user programs to do something like this, and I think the FORTRAN overlay system (used mostly on the older TOPS-10 operating system) did, but it was not at all general practice. TOPS-20 is a demand-paged virtual memory operating system. Usually your program would have everything lunk in with it, or call a well-defined library segment (usually a TOPS-10 style "high segment") that would be separately loaded. "Loading" an executable program (as opposed to linking relocatable binaries) merely involved setting the swap pointers for the appropriate process page(s) to that particular file on the disk; this made sharing of pure pages easily (and in fact impossible to avoid). _____ ____ ---+--- /-\ Mark Crispin Atheist & Proud _|_|_ _|_ || ___|__ / / 6158 Lariat Loop NE R90/6 pilot |_|_|_| /|\-++- |=====| / / Bainbridge Island, WA "Gaijin! Gaijin!" --|-- | |||| |_____| / \ USA 98110-2098 "Gaijin ha doko ka?" /|\ | |/\| _______ / \ +1 (206) 842-2385 "Niichan ha gaijin." / | \ | |__| / \ / \ mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU "Chigau. Gaijin ja nai. kisha no kisha ga kisha de kisha-shita Omae ha gaijin darou." sumomo mo momo, momo mo momo, momo ni mo iroiro aru "Iie, boku ha nihonjin." uraniwa ni wa niwa, niwa ni wa niwa niwatori ga iru "Souka. Yappari gaijin!"