Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!oliveb!orc!mipos3!omepd!toms From: toms@omews44.intel.com (Tom Shott) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Cool CMOS at ECL speeds (?) Message-ID: Date: 17 Jan 90 18:36:44 GMT References: <105@zds-ux.UUCP> <34525@mips.mips.COM> Sender: news@omepd.UUCP Organization: OME, INTeL Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon Lines: 38 In-reply-to: mark@mips.COM's message of 16 Jan 90 15:39:55 GMT In article <34525@mips.mips.COM> mark@mips.COM (Mark G. Johnson) writes: Opinion, not data, follows; flame-broil me if you must... On each project, chip engineers design their parts to fit within the power budget allocated for that chip. That's why you can't take the power per transistor per megahertz of the 386, multiply it by the number of transistors on the i860 times the clock rate of the i860, and get the power dissipation of the i860. The 386 and the 860 were each _designed_ for a particular power dissipation. Apparently the 860's goal was moderately low power; hat's off to R. Albers &co for getting it so low. Both higher performance and level power dissipation for new processors are a result of improved fabrication processes. Improved processes have smaller feature sizes which result in 1M + transistor chips. It also means more devices for the same Cap value. Thus higher performance with a flat power curve. Opinion On: I don't speak for Intel. (Well, hardly ever). Data sheets often have a maximum power dissipation. This number is arrived at by finding a group of chips at the edge of passing specs. Then all the available test sets are run on the chips at the conditions stated in the specs for DC values and loads. The highest power consumption noted is used. Thus your mileage may very depending on output loading, software, etc. I don't know how we arrive at "typical" power dissipation. Opinion Off: -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Shott INTeL, 2111 NE 25th Ave., Hillsboro, OR 97123, (503) 696-4520 toms@omews44.intel.com OR toms%omews44.intel.com@csnet.relay.com INTeL.. Designers of the 960 Superscalar uP and other uP's