Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: jwb@cit5.cit.oz (Jim Breen) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Supreme Court Rules Cordless Phones Not Private Message-ID: <2851@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 11 Jan 90 23:08:28 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: Chisholm Institute of Technology, Melb., Australia Lines: 48 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 25, message 1 of 10 In article <2784@accuvax.nwu.edu>, thomas%mvac23.uucp@udel.edu (Thomas Lapp) writes: > What bothers me about this is that if users of cordless phones should > be aware that they can be overheard, the Supreme Court should also > apply the same reasoning to cellular telephones since it is OBVIOUS > that carphones, etc. use radio waves (the antenna tends to give it > away :-). ........ It is interesting to note how Australian law differs here. We have no general right to privacy, but there is a strict law on phone tapping and on recording phone calls. Whether listening in to a cordless or cellular call on your el cheapo scanner constitutes a tap, or is just legitimate use of your right to listen to any frequency you like has yet to be tested in court (and may never be.) Recording of a phone call is a definite no-no. There was a very funny case a couple of years ago where the leader of the opposition Liberal (i.e. conservative) Party in Victoria had a long car phone conversation with Andrew Peacock, then Federal deputy leader (also in opposition) of that party. Andrew made a lot of highly uncomplimentary comments, complete with plenty of four-letter words, about his colleague and leader, John Howard. Of course, a ham with a scanner and recorder was listening in, and within minutes the choice bits of the conversation were being played on commercial radio. The fur flew, and Andrew lost his job. (He eventually rolled Howard and became leader. In his victory Press conference he promised to stay awy from car phones.) I believe the ham got a bit of a wrist slapping and was told not to do it again. No charges were laid. The US has a long history of listening to other people's phone conversations. For years the CIA happily read all the car phones of the Soviet leadership. This was one of the reasons behind the (understandable) distress over the release of the "Pentagon Papers". Some of the material in those papers could only have been obtained from car phone taps, and thus the release effectively blew (and destroyed) the whole sigint operation. _______ Jim Breen (jwb@cit5.cit.oz) Department of Robotics & /o\----\\ \O Digital Technology. Chisholm Inst. of Technology /RDT\ /|\ \/| -:O____/ PO Box 197 Caulfield East 3145 Australia O-----O _/_\ /\ /\ (ph) +61 3 573 2552 (fax) +61 3 572 1298