Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!aplcen!samsung!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!sun-barr!ccut!titcca!etlcom!gama!nttlab!nttyrl!nttmhs!yam@nttmhs.ntt.jp From: yam@nttmhs.ntt.jp (Toshihiko YAMAKAMI) Newsgroups: comp.groupware Subject: Re: The GRACE Project for OSI Group Communication Message-ID: <4410@nttmhs.ntt.JP> Date: 16 Jan 90 00:26:20 GMT References: <16454@robin.cs.nott.ac.uk> Sender: news@nttmhs.ntt.JP Lines: 58 From article <16454@robin.cs.nott.ac.uk>, by sdb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Steve Benford): > > The GRACE (GRoup ACtivity Environment) Project > ============================================== > for Group Communication in an OSI Environment > ============================================= ( a lot of stuff deleted, please refer to the original ) It is very interesting. We know there are many communication research activities in Europe, including many in ESPRIT. But I did not know there is some project for Group Communication. MHS/MOTIS based group communication has been under discussion for rather a long period. I (I am one of SC18/WG4 member of Japanese Boday) think there is no definite group communication model in ISO SC18/WG 4. MHS/MOTIS based communication model is under discussion, and some working memos were made. It made me surprised that there exists a real implementation project based on MHS/MOTIS based enhansed group communication. Many people will agree that we cannot support group activities from a lot of series of inter-personal communication. We need some more powerful model to support group communication. A group communication agent located over MOTIS/MHS based UA and MTA is one model. Maybe another example is network-based hypertext approach. In OSI view, it is possible to provide such communication base with standardized hypertext on DFR. MHS/MOTIS based group communication has one strength. Its interconnectability of worldwide communication. It will take some time we can communication some types of hypertext or higher level document systems in world wide scale. But e-mail is the easiest background to provide group communication. Its weakness will include security-related issues(some EDI discussion people point out MOTIS/MHS security is not enough for EDI, maybe same to group communication), updatability(messages are low level communication primitives, so information manipulation such as cancel on voting will be hard tasks on application entity over MOTIS/MHS UA). MHS/MOTIS group communication has been a long-discussed matter in ISO SC18/WG 4. Now some CCITT people begins to discuss it since last year. We hope GRACE project provide real interconnectable group communication bases in world wide manner. -- Tosihiko YAMAKAMI Toshihiko YAMAKAMI NTT Telecommunication Networks Laboratories Telephone: +81-468-59-3781 FAX: +81-468-59-2546 junet: yam@nttmhs.ntt.jp CSNET: yam%nttmhs.ntt.jp@relay.cs.net snail-mail: Take 1-2356-523A, Yokosuka, Kanagawa 238-03 JAPAN