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From: SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: .sig please
Message-ID: <9001150629.AA20688@apple.com>
Date: 15 Jan 90 06:09:37 GMT
References: <spike@world.std.com>
Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
Organization: School of Business - U. of Connecticut
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On Thu, 11 Jan 90 23:46:55 GMT you said:
>In article <4262875@ub.cc.umich.edu> Tabakal@UB.CC.UMICH.EDU writes:
><> "The World" - Public Access Unix - +1 617-739-9753  24hrs {3,12,24}00bps
><
><Since I read info-apple, I have no idea what address this was
><posted from and can't send in a reply.  Remember: .SIG files
><are there so people can figure out how to contact you.
>
>    The comp.sys.apple <-> info-apple gateway strips out so much
>header info that you can't find the senders address?  I find that hard
>to believe, but if it is true, that would make the gateway a pretty
>useless piece of software.  My address is "spike@world.std.com".

Spike, your ignorance is showing.  You know too little about internetwork
communication, USENET, and RFC 822.  Every now and then the gateway does
preserve the UUCP 'bang' address it receives (though the RFC doesn't require
it to for reasons that are about to become obvious).  Here's your *ahem*
return path (as received on BITNET) -

From:         Joe Ilacqua
              <snorkelwacker!spdcc!merk!xylogics!world!spike
              @BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU>

I trust you can intantly tell that the above path is NOT the optimum
way to reach you from BITNET or anywhere else.  When you stick a post
onto a USENET list, it follows along it's own merry UUCP distribution path
until it hits a gateway that forwards it to the Internet.  What you see
is the route USENET takes from 'world' to MIT.

It happens that 'world' is a UUCP host which has a registered domain
address.  Because 'world' isn't actually on the Internet, some mailers
will need to know who your Mail eXchanger (MX) is, in order to reach you.
The MX for World happens to be -
    world.std.com        MX = uunet.uu.net
Apparently World's connection to UUNET isn't direct -
    FROM PSUVAX1: Path to world:  rutgers!mimsy!uunet!skuld!world!username
The correct (administratively recommended :-) address from BITNET, in fact,
is: spike@world.uucp (although spike@world.std.com will work).

>->Spike  .signatures, who needs them.

You do, for one unless you LIKE answering questions and not getting answers.
If you're going to advertise the dial-up number at the end of your messages,
you may as well include your (complete) address

-spike%world.std.com@uunet.uu.net aka spike@world.uucp

/s Murph <Sewall%UConnVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.Edu>         [Internet]
      or ...{psuvax1 or mcvax}!uconnvm.bitnet!sewall     [UUCP]
 + Standard disclaimer applies ("The opinions expressed are my own" etc.)