Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!mcdphx!hrc!force!covertr From: covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: STs and Colleges: A Proposal Keywords: st, universities, colleges, minix,unix Message-ID: <481784b3.14a1f@force.UUCP> Date: 17 Jan 90 17:11:01 GMT Organization: gte Lines: 46 I have proposed this idea to John Townsend on GEnie and both he and an Atari employee named Elizabeth Shook have responded to it. But I thought that I would like to bounce it across the USENET hoping that someone might pick it up and run with it. Anyway, there is a lot of interest in UNIX and C at most colleges and univeristies today. Most schools which teach Computer Science (comp sci) also teach UNIX and C. And what is really needed is a Cheap, Hackable UNIX machine. I have asked John Townsend @ Atari why Atari doesn't bundle a Mega ST2 with a 65 meg drive, a monochrome monitor, and MINIX. This package could be sold to college students across the USA at under $2500. this would be the cheapest UNIX development system available. MINIX has been ported to the ST, and you get full source code to MINIX. Most, if not all, of GNU programs have been ported to the ST, and you get full source code to them. So, for under $2500 the students would get an excellent computer to do UNIX and C development, with one of the best monochrome monitors ever made, and an adequate harddrive. Atari would get name recognition in an important market. And would get to sell a lot of Mega ST computers (before the STes make them obsolete :-) ). John Townsend replied that Atari doesn't have a sales force to handle sells to colleges and universities. John also said that GNU software can not be SOLD with a computer. But, I thought that if Atari *GAVE* the GNU packages, with complete source code and instructions on how to contact the Free Software Foundation, that GNU could be packaged with the MINIX/Mega package. John Townsend did say that Atari would work with any VAR who would like to start such a program. So, what is the general USENET concensus on this idea?? Would it fly?? Would it allow poor ($$) college student to buy a UNIX development system cheaply?? Could GNU be bundled with such a system?? Does GNU work under MINIX? I think that the Mega ST would make an excellent UNIX hacking tool for college students. -- Richard E. Covert, Lead Engineer of Software Tools Group AG Communications Systems, Phoenix AZ (602) - 581-4652 TCP/IP: covertr@gtephx UUCP: {ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att}!gtephx!covertr