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From: MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - Somogyi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: What I'd like to see in the AppleShare of the 90's
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Date: 17 Jan 90 04:38:01 GMT
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mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael Thomas Niehaus) writes about
applications being stored on the AppleShare server.
 
I had not considered this. My error.
 
To the best of my recollection, AppleShare was designed for sharing
data, not apps. Yes, you can do it, yes, you can set the shared bit on
an app, but that doesn't mean that it's a good idea or even that Apple
recommends it. Everyone I know recommends agaainst it most strongly.
Just because lots of people do it, doesn't necessarily mean it's
right.
 
Of course, lots of people do launch apps from servers, regardless, and
so the whole concept of a spec becomes a bit moot.
 
AShare was designed for roughly 10 people/server sharing data. AFP
gives you all the byte-range locking stuff you need to run multi-user
apps. That's it.
 
There should be a way of saving a current file even is you have an app
launched from a server. But, this would require some major hacking on
the part of the Apple folks.
 
>> Stephan Somogyi
>> NetWorkShop Manager
>> MacUser
>
>Network shop, huh?  Well, try this out then.
 
Yeah. That's my title and the NetWorkShop's where I work.
 
>Put an application (something like PageMaker) on an AppleShare file
>server.  Run this application on a workstation.  Pull the AppleTalk
>cable out of the back of your workstation. Keep using your
>application (after you acknowledge the message about the
>disconnection) and just see how long you do anything.
 
Not very long, I know.
 
>Ideally, I believe that you should see a dialog like this:
>
>     Your file server connection has been lost.
>
>     Attempt to Reconnect              OK
>
>Then if the user chooses to attempt to regain a connection, present
>another dialog:
>
>     Trying to reestablish connection...
>
>                                 Give Up
>
>Get the picture?
 
Sure. But if you give up, you're still hosed.
 
There needs to be a way of recovering your data. That's the point I'm
making. No amount of dialogs and options like this are going to fix
this problem. Someone at Apple needs to think about this and deal with
it.
 
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