Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!purdue!iuvax!bsu-cs!mithomas From: mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael Thomas Niehaus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: What I'd like to see in the AppleShare of the 90's Message-ID: <10585@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> Date: 17 Jan 90 15:07:45 GMT References: <25184@brunix.UUCP> <25862@cup.portal.com> <1990Jan13.151947.15612@phri.nyu.edu> <25941@cup.portal.com> <10578@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> <26015@cup.portal.com> Reply-To: mithomas@bsu-cs.UUCP (Michael Thomas Niehaus) Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana Lines: 61 Stephan Somogyi writes: > To the best of my recollection, AppleShare was designed for sharing > data, not apps. Yes, you can do it, yes, you can set the shared bit on > an app, but that doesn't mean that it's a good idea or even that Apple > recommends it. Everyone I know recommends agaainst it most strongly. > Just because lots of people do it, doesn't necessarily mean it's > right. I believe AppleShare was created for sharing files. With a good file sharing system, differentiation between data and applications shouldn't be needed. Sharing applications at educational institutions is very common, since many colleges find it difficult to justify the expense of adding a hard drive to every machine (and they like to boast that they are using file servers). Sharing applications is very painful and slow, but in some situations it is needed to keep some functionality. > AShare was designed for roughly 10 people/server sharing data. AFP > gives you all the byte-range locking stuff you need to run multi-user > apps. That's it. That may be a good rough estimate for a file server running over LocalTalk. For EtherTalk, that number would be increased. There is no limitation in the software. You just have to ask yourself how long you (or the other users) are willing to sit and wait. > Stephan Somogyi > NetWorkShop Manager > MacUser > > Yeah. That's my title and the NetWorkShop's where I work. Well, there is an ad in MacWeek this week that was placed by MacUser. They are looking for a Product and Network lab manager. For those who are interested, qualifications include 5 or more years of experience as a project/ technical manager, poreferably for a publication; a BS degree in EE, Physics, CS, or journalism is also desired. The interesting thing about the advertisement: It doesn't say where to write or who to contact. I guess they expect you to figure this out yourself. > There needs to be a way of recovering your data. That's the point I'm > making. No amount of dialogs and options like this are going to fix > this problem. Someone at Apple needs to think about this and deal with > it. Agreed. But if Apple doesn't do it, how much pain would it be to write an application that does full journaling (like DEC's VMS editors)? Or you could switch to WordPerfect for the Mac, which will backup your work every minute (or less frequent). -Michael -- Michael Niehaus UUCP: !{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!mithomas Apple Student Rep ARPA: mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu Ball State University AppleLink: ST0374 (from UUCP: st0374@applelink.apple.com)