Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!helios!photon!gordon From: gordon@photon.tamu.edu (Dan Gordon) Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: more Chinese Room Message-ID: <4090@helios.TAMU.EDU> Date: 16 Jan 90 15:22:51 GMT References: <2602@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> <1527@skye.ed.ac.uk> <4921.25ad37f7@mva.cs.liv.ac.uk> <1585@uniol.UUCP> Sender: usenet@helios.TAMU.EDU Reply-To: gordon@photon.UUCP (Dan Gordon) Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 19 In article jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jon Allen Boone) writes: ]schwuchow@uniol.UUCP (Michael Schwuchow) writes: ]> ian@mva.cs.liv.ac.uk writes: ]> ]> >Rather than an argument, I will proffer an example of such a phenomenon. ]> >From time to time, during human history, writings from long-extinct ]> >civilisations have been found (for example Mayan codices, Runes or Egyptian ]> >hieroglyphics). All the information that the translators had to work with --------------------------------------------------------- ]> >were the rules they could deduce from the information. With just this ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ]> >syntactic knowledge, they deduced the semantic content. Isn't this exactly ------------------------------------------------------ ]> >what Searle says cannot be done? Code-breakers (for example Turing :-) must ]> >have to do a similar task. Not true. The breakthrough in deciphering Egyptian hieroglyphics came with the discovery of the famous Rosetta (sp?) stone, which had text in 3 different languages, two of them being Egyptian and ancient Greek.