Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!ists!stpl!bbm!aaron From: aaron@bbm.UUCP (Aaron Burns) Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix Subject: computone intelligent ca4rds Keywords: computone intelligent signal level Message-ID: <828@bbm.UUCP> Date: 12 Jan 90 17:44:01 GMT Reply-To: aaron@bbm.UUCP (Aaron Burns) Organization: BBM Bureau of Measurement, Toronto Lines: 45 About 3 months ago I came up with a cheap way to give interested parties on other floors in our building a fast connection to our Xenix systems - Bell 'in-house data channels' (direct phone lines) coupled with short haul modem eliminators (SHM's, also line drivers). Total connection cost $370 (Canadian) plus $6.90/month for the line. As these modems are self-powered in their most compact form, I called Computone to confirm that their cards could power at least ten SHM's. Computone's technical people said ok, "you shouldn't have any problem". The first link went in between a Computone Intelliport AT-16 and a PC-AT with Kermit emulating a VT-100 on a 'standard' serial port, and is functioning properly at 19,200 between two floors. The second link was set up later between a Computone Intelliport AT-8 (on a different system with two such cards) and, again, a PC emulating a VT-100. It didn't work. After much trial and tribulation (no-one ever suggested a power problem, and every component tested good in isolation), we discovered that none of the SHM's could do a loop-back while on the AT-8...but worked just fine off a standard port and an AST 4-port dumb card. The conclusion is insufficient juice to power the SHM's. We backed this up by putting a longish (155 foot) cable between the two systems (ie between an AT-16 and an AT-8). While "Managing UUCP and Usenet" (O'Reilly and Associates) states that a 9600 baud connection is feasible out to 250 feet, this cable (shielded, low-capacitance) kept losing dtr, and (with -clocal in the gettydefs entry) garbled transmissions at 9600. When the AT-16 end was hooked to an AST port, dtr became stable and data transmission was flawless. It appears that the Computones just don't put out much of a signal. I don't have test equipment to directly confirm this. I will call Computone today, but - how could they help? After all, the cards work OK with just terminals, and that is what they're advertised for. If they do say anything usefull, I'll let you know. Anyone with similar experiences - please tell us! -- Aaron 'crash and' Burns "Nothing I say on the net is binding Metro Works to our corporation" Toronto, Ontario "Life is a forge, and the purest metal (416)392-4310 comes from the hottest fire" aaron@bbm.UUCP ...utzoo!yunexus!stpl!bbm!aaron