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From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
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Subject: Re: OSF/Motif vs. NeWS vs. SUN/Open Windows vs. ?
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Date: 17 Jan 90 23:08:30 GMT
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 anantha%ravi@Sun.COM (Anantha Srirama) writes:

> Some unforgettable stuff about OSF, snow, vaporware and technical
knock-outs.  We had a good laugh over this one.  Especially our
support group, finding they don't exist.

And then:
> 
> Ignore my previous posting responding to a discussion on the Motif<->OpenLook
> It was posted by mistake when I intended to just reply to the author.

Yes, but that doesn't make it any the less untrue.  I wonder how much
misinformation like this has been sent out by mail.  Since it *has*
reached the public's eye...

You want to consider the vaporwareness of OSF/Motif.  Consider: since
August 21 1990 we have shipped to hundreds of licensees, and the
shipping rate isn't slowing.  You comment on the availability of
OSF/Motif.  Last time I looked, there were 33 platform vendors (whose
names I recognized, that is) with Motif licenses.

More?  Motif is licensed in 25 countries, including all major European
countries, Japan, Taiwan, Korea and Australia. Motif has been endorsed
by the EEC as the GUI of choice; it has also received several
prestigious industry awards.

Hardware vendors representing over 75% of the international
computer market, including IBM, HP, DEC, Nixdorf, Hitachi &
Sony have all either started shipping, or announced plans to 
ship, Motif on their platforms.

There are over a dozen application companies currently shipping
Motif applications, as well as major systems suppliers to the
386 market (notably Interactive and SCO) shipping Motif systems.

There were over 30 vendors demonstrating Motif at the Unix EXPO
tradeshow in New York, and there are approx. 40 scheduled to
demo Motif in their booths at UniForum next week.

As for OSF melting away: do you really think, with all that support,
we would be allowed to?  Anyway, come to Uniforum and look at our
members' booths.  See OSF/Motif running on the first OSF/1 snapshot.

Oh yes, IDTs.  We prefer to let an IDT be part of a vendor's added
value, not the Motif core.  There have been public demos from HP (both
Winterp and an IDT in a joint effort from Visual Edge), Telesoft, ICS,
Nixdorf, and I apologize if I forgot anyone.  DEC has announced plans
for an IDT, but I haven't seen it.

That's the longest public response to a private mailing I've seen for
while :-)
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