Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!apple!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!681!853!Stephen.White From: Stephen.White@f853.n681.z3.fidonet.org (Stephen White) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Decade Of The Disabled Message-ID: <9603@bunker.UUCP> Date: 17 Jan 90 02:09:02 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Stephen.White@f853.n681.z3.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 3:681/853 Lines: 63 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 6257 > I am, then I accept that I'm 100% ME. I ain't no lesser > fraction of anything. I'm different from other people - > so are you, so is everyone. It would be a bit boring if > we were all exactly the same, wouldn't it? I dont think you quite follow. I'm saying that some people think that their bodies are all they are; ie their disability makes them inferior. I disagree with this. I think that the physical component is only a part of the whole package, and the mental part is more significant. Personality, charm, intelligence, et al are all important. > So my differences are a bit different - well, I wouldn't > have it any other > way, and if you think about it, who would want to wake > up every day thinking of themselves as a partial person? This would seem to imply that you agree with me, in practise if not in principle. You are happy with yourself the way you are, and you dont think of yourself as inferior. When I said that the extremes of the deaf/blind/austic community tend to have a higher proportion of jerks, I was saying that these people mark themselves off as special or inferior. The sole deaf child in a family tends to regard himself as crippled, since they tend to be treated that way. This is the fault of the wider community, as "normal" people tend not to understand. By the same token, the members of radical deaf familys have marked themselves off as special because of their handicap. They dont think of it as a handicap, yet they are isolating themselves because of it. Thus, they do not really think of themselves as the normal average people, and react adversely to those normal average people that attempt to interact with them. Jerk, is a term that changes with perspective, yet by all measurements, it is possible to avoid this label. People might not think of themselves as jerks, but the majority of people may. This is when I think its appropiate to use the term. So, if these people cannot act normally and pleasantly then jerks they are. > > On some deaf people being jerks - well. Some blind people > are real pigs - not because they are blind, but because > they are pigs. Being different (blind, deaf, physially Here, I sense the inference that you think I am blind (physically, not morally). The truth is that I am also deaf, almost totally, from birth. I dont dispute that there are wankers everywhere, but I still insist that there is a higher proportion of jerks in the respective handicapped communities. Consider it from this viewpoint. Quite a lot of people are not mature enough to stand up for themselves, or feel confident in themselves. If they are physically perfect, then other people will provide the emotional props. In the handicapped, these props are missing, thus they are forced to rely on theirselves. Result? This is also why I think that the jerks are confined to the extremes, and usually grow out of it as they gain in maturity. The mainstream are alright, as they have their emotional props in their peers, and family. Steve! The Child of a Lesser God! -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!3!681!853!Stephen.White Internet: Stephen.White@f853.n681.z3.fidonet.org