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From: rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz)
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Subject: news.lists.ps-maps passes, 190 to 11
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Date: 14 Jan 90 20:43:25 GMT
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The group news.lists.ps-maps (moderated) passes, 119 to 11.

Almost everyone put the group name and their vote in the subject line,
which made filing the mail messages trivial.  Thanks.  Very few people
made other comments -- they're summarized below.

I found one thing very interesting:  I didn't much care whether the group
got created or not, but every time I got a NO vote I wanted to ask why,
and convince the person to change their mind.  Perhaps we should consider
changing the guidelines so that the person proposing the group doesn't
take the votes?

No vote comments:
    Use news.lists
    I strongly disapprove of moderated groups
    Make the information available via FTP

Yes vote comments:
    I would have preferred news.ps-maps since a map isn't a list
    I don't really care about the name
    A group for just the postscript maps is a bit extravagant; I'd prefer
	a simple statstics group for all such information (including the maps,
	both group readership summaries, etc).
    I still think the name is slightly awkward, but I couldn't do better, so
    Although I'd prefer news.ps-maps
    Much better name than in the proposal!
    Preferred names: news.lists.maps news.maps.ps news.lists.ps-maps
    I still like news.lists.maps.ps better
    news.maps.ps
    A general 'graphic image' newsgroup would be better
    I still think it should be called news.list.maps
    I would, honestly, rather have had avoided "lists", since they are not
	lists, they are maps.  I would have preferred news.maps.postscript or
	news.ps-maps
    I liked this name best of all BTW.
    I thought the "ps-" part unnecessary.

Thanks.
	/rich $alz, for Brian Reid

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