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From: bph@buengc.BU.EDU (Blair P. Houghton)
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Subject: Re: Cancellation and Suspicion
Summary: Stop being so daffy about this, will you?
Message-ID: <5291@buengc.BU.EDU>
Date: 15 Jan 90 19:50:25 GMT
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In article <:C21J84ggpc2@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <5275@buengc.BU.EDU> bph@buengc.bu.edu (Blair P. Houghton) writes:
>> Dickie came out at the very beginning and stated the reasoning
>> for the name of the group,
>
>This is revisionist history. First of all, he loudly and frequently denied
>that distribution had anything to do with the name choice until the vote
>itself. And then he mentioned it in passing as something that had been
>brought to his attention.

This is crap.  The only person he didn't tell was you.

>Prior to the vote itself, He called me on the phone and we talked for about
>an hour. About the first thing he said to me was "The only reason I'm putting
>the group in sci is to get it into Europe".

So he told you.  So stop your damn whining.

>And he did not do anything about net.prejudice against rec groups, unless you
>count demonstrating such prejudice himself as "doing something about it". The
>way to do something about such prejudice would be to create more high quality
>rec groups and demonstrate that such prejudice was unfounded.

Which you know is not the reason rec groups are kept out of
the distributions of most systems that avoid them.

Those places do the sci and comp groups because they see
that as profitable information as it's good for the
currency of the education of their employees.  The rec
groups take up disc space that may simply be unavailable.
Making the rec groups better will not change the fact that
they can't afford to manage that part of the heirarchy (no
matter how easy it is).

If anything, once the people who import sci.aquaria realize
that rec groups are pretty innocuous (which they would be
if you and chuq would quit expectorating in sci.aquaria)
they might just be inclined to start carrying them the next
time they have the opportunity to make that decision, but
it will do no good to make more rec groups that they won't
even see, anyway.

				--Blair
				  "Revisionist my unsubtly flatulent
				   uncle Floyd."