Xref: utzoo talk.religion.newage:5386 news.groups:16448 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken!ames!saturn!xanthian From: xanthian@saturn.ADS.COM (Metafont Consultant Account) Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,news.groups Subject: Re: talk.religion.pagan Message-ID: <10442@saturn.ADS.COM> Date: 16 Jan 90 13:55:02 GMT References: <130242@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <9695@hoptoad.uucp> Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mt. View, CA (415) 960-7300 Lines: 34 [the story so far: Tim is asked if he is a fascist, answers "yes", and goes on to say ...] => This mess and sci.aquaria show a basic flaw in the newsgroup creation => process. The votes are taken by people who have a vested interest in => the outcome of the vote, and who can very easily commit fraud or => otherwise dissemble concerning the results. => => Wouldn't it be better if some backbone site set up an automatic vote => receiver/counter/confirmer? The overhead would probably be a very => small fraction of the cost of being on the backbone in the first place, => there would be no more complaints about how hard collector X was to => reach, and the votes would be in the hands of a supremely disinterested => entity. The only downside is that someone has to write the software, => but it should all be doable with a fairly simple awk script; if no one => on one of the backbone sites wants to take a few hours, I'll do it. I'd guess I could lay pretty good money on identifying half a dozen net.folks who would be delighted to show you how quickly they could whip up a little vote fraud generator that would baffle any automated method of counting votes. I think your idea would just make things worse. Generic complaint: why does there exist a set of net.control.personalities who insist on taking these vote games so incredibly seriously? As someone else has noted, it's just USENet, it ain't nohow important. -- Again, my opinions, not the account furnishers'. xanthian@well.sf.ca.us xanthian@ads.com (Kent Paul Dolan) Kent, the (bionic) man from xanth, now available as a build-a-xanthian kit at better toy stores near you. Warning - some parts proven fragile.