Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!uflorida!novavax!twwells!bill From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: CALL FOR DISCUSSION: talk.philosophy.objectivism Message-ID: <1990Jan17.075631.853@twwells.com> Date: 17 Jan 90 07:56:31 GMT References: <1990Jan13.140242.14111@twwells.com> <9001140024.AA18363@apee.ogi.edu> <9001142226.AA23247@apee.ogi.edu> Organization: None, Ft. Lauderdale, FL Lines: 60 In article <9001142226.AA23247@apee.ogi.edu> mehuld@APEE.OGI.EDU (Mehul Dave) writes: : In article : bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) writes : : [ A lot of stuff about me which should not be discussed in this : newsgroup because it is not relevant here] Try again. The stuff you deleted was my saying that your assertion that I can't be trusted to recognize a flame is absurd. Since the reason I proposed the group as moderated is to keep out flames, discussion on that point is quite relevant. : >Now, I want to make this clear: I vehemently disagree with these : >people. I think they are, at best, deluded; at worst, evil. On the : >other hand, they *are* Objectivists; a legitimate forum for : >Objectivism would necessarily include their words. : : Well, in the same breath, you say we are "evil" or "randroids" or : whatever and then you say you regard us to be objectivists. That is correct. An Objectivist is one that has a philosophy that agrees with Rand's on the essential points. Randroids, though violating the philosophy by taking Objectivism on faith, nonetheless agree with those points. Thus, from my point of view, Randroids are Objectivists, though bad ones. : And yet : to expect us to believe that you will not edit off our views? Yes, I expect you to believe that. Why? If for no other reason that, were I to reject them or edit them, you could post on other newsgroups complaining about this, thus discrediting me as moderator. At least two people have suggested co-moderation, which is to say, two people, presumably myself and someone acceptable to you, as moderators. I'd accept that. Do you need more proof? : Besides, Mr. Wells did not even post a charter for the proposed : newsgroup. What is it supposed to discuss? Specifically, is it all : of objectivism or only parts of it? From the original posting: : This newsgroup would exist for : discussion of Objectivism, the philosophy of Ayn Rand, and : related topics. Looks like a charter to me. And, to answer your question: all of it. --- Bill { uunet | novavax | ankh } !twwells!bill bill@twwells.com "We never make assertions, Miss Taggart. That is the moral crime peculiar to our enemies. We do not tell -- we *show*. We do not claim -- we *prove*." -- Hugh Akston in _Atlas Shrugged_