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From: gsmith@garnet.berkeley.edu (Gene W. Smith)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: new news top level proposed (was Re: sci.philosophy.objectivism)
Keywords: Objectivism, Rand, newsgroup, philosophy
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Date: 18 Jan 90 08:29:56 GMT
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In-reply-to: jeffd@ficc.uu.net (jeff daiell)

In article <4M410G2xds8@ficc.uu.net>, jeffd@ficc (jeff daiell) writes:

>A partial bibliography, in case anyone wants to do research before
>any vote on the newsgroup:

>ANTHEM
>WE THE LIVING
>THE FOUNTAINHEAD
>NIGHT OF JANUARY 16TH
>ATLAS SHRUGGED
>FOR THE NEW INTELLECTUAL
>CAPITALISM: THE UNKNOWN IDEAL
>THE VIRTUE OF SELFISHNESS
>THE NEW LEFT: THE ANTI-INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION

>Also, if any philosophy is included under sci, then it's only
>fair that this one be, also.

  Why? "Sci" is not some sort of award, it is supposed to be
descriptive of what goes on in the group. There is nothing
particularly scientific about Ayn Rand's books.  'Atlas Shrugged'
could be called science fiction, but the science (perpetual
motion machines, super-metals, etc.)  is not taken seriously, and
anyway science fiction itself is under the "rec" heading.

  But if you think there is some special cachet to the "sci"
heading, why not take Greg's advice and move to
sci.philosophy.meta?

>But I can see the point that some postings would be less
>technical, which is why I suggested the theoretical group under
>sci and the applications group under talk.

  There is nothing scientific about Objectivism, period. It is
not science. It is not even close to being science, which
was more or less the excuse used to create sci.skeptic
and sci.aquaria.
--
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do not claim--we *prove*." H Akston, the last of the advocates of reason