Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ncar!mephisto!prism!fsu!loligo!sandee From: sandee@loligo (Daan Sandee) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: Latin names (was: Birding Magazines) Message-ID: <433@fsu.scri.fsu.edu> Date: 11 Jan 90 00:31:05 GMT References: <2359@leah.Albany.Edu> <425@fsu.scri.fsu.edu> <428@fsu.scri.fsu.edu> <3736@nmtsun.nmt.edu> Sender: news@fsu.scri.fsu.edu Reply-To: sandee@scri1.scri.fsu.edu (Daan Sandee) Organization: Florida State University Lines: 66 In article <3736@nmtsun.nmt.edu> john@nmtsun.nmt.edu (John Shipman) writes: >I, for one, have greatly enjoyed the exchange between Daan >Sandee (sandee@sun6.scri.fsu.edu) and Annika Forsten >(misan@ra.abo.fi). Please don't move to e-mail; this >exchange has been a glimpse into another world that we don't >see much here. .... Thanks ... > This group has pretty low volume, and for >me, this discussion is highly preferable to topics like >``Biting Conures.'' Hear, hear ! >Annika had a good point about how Latin names can help you >learn the relationships of birds. However, be advised that >the DNA-DNA hybridization work of Sibley and Alquist is >currently turning this world upside down. ..... >.......... Olive Warbler (_Peucedramus taeniatus_) is in a >monotypic subfamily of Fringillidae. ... remarkable ... > >De Benedictis finishes his article with this statement: >{..} don't be surprised if something very much like it is used in the >Seventh Edition of the AOU Check-list.'' If they keep to normal intervals, that takes us into the 21st century. Which should be long enough for the AOU to switch to DNA-bases taxonomy. >I certainly agree with you about the Southwest! The birding >is terrific down here. Sure, I've been there. Which reminds me. On Sept 6, I saw a Greater Pewee at El Morro National Monument. I found the bird was not on their checklist. I made a lot of noise about it, but the ranger at the visitor center didn't know anything about birds ; he had, however, a Wildlife Sighting Report form, which I filled out ; I have no idea what happened to it. I didn't bother to report the bird to the AB Regional Editor because I thought it was the just the Nat.Mon.'s checklist that was in error or out of date. But now I have the right man to ask : Is a Greater Pewee at El Morrow in the beginning of September in range, somewhat out of range, wildly out of range ? There is no question in my mind that it was a Greater Pewee. I have seen the bird in Mexico both before and since, although El Morro is my only U.S. sighting. [ Cross talk between me and a fellow birder, El Naranjo (SLP) CBC, 88/12/30: HE : Is that a Hooded, there above the cows ? Me : Where ? Don't see any cows. HE : (pointing). There, in the top of that tree. Me : Ah, got it. Looks like a Hooded [oriole]. But what you mean, cows ? HE : Don't you see ? Just a coupla branches down from the top. Finally I saw the animal he was referring to : a Greater Pewee. Which by old Mexico-hands like him is pronounced "cows" (and spelled "Coue's"). ] >-- >John Shipman/Zoological Data Processing/Socorro, New Mexico >USENET: ucbvax!unmvax!nmtsun!john CSNET: john@nmtsun.nmt.edu >``Let's go outside and commiserate with nature.'' --Dave Farber Anytime you want a computer professional to help you count birds (in the field or in the computer) just holler. I've nothing to do right now - spending my days reading rn. Daan Sandee sandee@sun6.fsu.edu Supercomputer Computations Research Institute Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052 (904) 644-7045