Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: jdnicoll@watyew.waterloo.edu (Brian or James) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Defense cuts Message-ID: <13222@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 17 Jan 90 01:43:37 GMT References: <12854@cbnews.ATT.COM> <13143@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Lines: 25 Approved: military@att.att.com From: jdnicoll@watyew.waterloo.edu (Brian or James) Another, perhaps more serious problem than Mr. Spencer's legal difficulty with combining police organisations with military ones is that the training that produces effective police forces may be incompatable with the training needed to achieve military goals. I think this came up during the recent case in Ontario where the Tactical Rescue Units were involved in a fairly unproductive attempt to deal with a depressed and potentially dangerous teenager who had threatened suicide. (The teenager got wounded, I believe and a farmer got killed by the TRU.) The TRU are analogous to American SWAT teams. A point was made that the training the TRU recieve is not appropriate to the problem they were handed. (At this point, I'd like to make it clear that this note shouldn't be taken as a judgement on just -who- was at fault in the death.) It would be interesting to hear from anyone who has served in both the military and the police. Are there contradictions between the needs of a police force and those of a military one? James Nicoll Ps: A Further disclaimer: Don't take my definition of the TRU as canonical, as I working from my feeble memory.