Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!sdsu!crash!pro-graphics.cts.com!bobl From: bobl@pro-graphics.cts.com (Bob Lindabury) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: PKZip Amiga arrives Message-ID: <1245@crash.cts.com> Date: 20 Jan 90 17:36:03 GMT Sender: root@crash.cts.com Lines: 60 In-Reply-To: message from kudla@pawl.rpi.edu > Oh yeah, and the problem with novices giving it lots of attention is > that many of the people who make the rules on the BBSes around here > are novice users (you know, the kind who rejoice when they figure out > the DIR command) and they're on the verge of requiring everyone to > upload in ZIP format. Extra bad. Oh come on here! Who the heck are you to be telling the MAJORITY of users out there what they should or shouldn't be using or doing? Do you think your elitest computer mentality has any bearing on what's going to be accepted by the large majority of users out there? I think not! Your comments and others on the subject of this intuition based Zip utility makes me sick. I can understand the need for a small CLI based utility but that also goes hand in hand with an easy to use interface driven utility for the kids and mom and pops out there buying their first computers who don't know jack about the CLI or other nasties such as scripts (in their minds). Would you like to ban all intuition based archivers and require that everyone out there in the Amiga community learn scripts? You might as well try pissing into the wind. Seems to me the next logical step is to create a CLI based ZIP utility for all you elitest slobs out there who think nothing of sitting around banging on your CLI and writing scripts to automate your tasks (which require one hell of alot more time than clicking on PKZIP and unzipping a file). You know, the world doesn't revolve around you people who are heavy CLI users. Although I like the CLI and use it often, I can see the need for these easy to use Archivers and I don't have a closed mind about the product. Instead I see it as a step to a more universally accepted archiver for ALL computer types and ALL types of users, novice or experienced. You, on the other hand, have no tolerance for anyone who has less knowledge than you so you have to cut down those opinions because you have less confindence in your own abilities than you put on. > And what more could I ask for? Indeed. Unix compatibility, a smaller > executable, my own preferences if they must include a hideous graphic > interface, not eating 200k while simply idling and nearly 300k when > compressing, not crashing because I tried to run dterm (which eats > about 50k and the serial port) at the same time, and if possible, to > be compiled pure. Save the last one, Zoo is what I could ask for. Or a > command line ONLY (no huge executable, please!) version. My solution > now is to unzip everything I get and if I put it elsewhere it gets > LHArced or Zooed. Simple. Sure, a *nix version would be nice..in fact it is a requirement in my opinion. I feel the PKAZIP interface is elegant and not "hideous". It's easy to use and provides the user with many options. Too bad you don't have any memory. Zoo, give me a break! Yes, it's time for a CLI only version of ZIP but let's not go backwards to Zoo or the horrible alphabet soup of LHArc! Yeah, simple is the thought you put into your reply on this subject. > Robert Jude Kudla -- Bob _______________________ Pro-Graphics BBS 201/469-0049 ________________________ InterNet: bobl@pro-graphics.cts.com | ProLine: bobl@pro-graphics UUCP: ..crash!pro-graphics!bobl | CServe: 70347,2344 ARPA/DDN: ..crash!pro-graphics!bobl@nosc.mil | Amer. Online: Graphics3D ___________ ____________ Raven Enterprises - 25 Raven Ave. Piscataway, NJ 08854