Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!udccvax1!sun.acs.udel.edu!sjm From: sjm@sun.acs.udel.edu (Steve Morris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: I've had it with CBM! Message-ID: <7067@sun.acs.udel.edu> Date: 23 Jan 90 16:24:59 GMT References: <15609@well.UUCP> <4ZiqfAK00V4EE2ZUYy@andrew.cmu.edu> Reply-To: sjm@sun.acs.udel.edu (Steve Morris) Distribution: comp Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 61 It's funny how everyone here has become a marketing expert. I know that someone has said it before here, but they are not trying to sell to people like you and me. If you are going to market to the masses then you have to speak to them on their level. The ads where intended to sell A500s to the general public for christmas and bring about an awareness of the machine. Marketing these days promotes an image more than the features of a product. And it doesn't take an expert to figure that out. Sun Kun Kim writes: >... print ads were only focused on a few >publications.(such as newsweek, times, etc.) Why in the world would >they do this? They spend megabucks to print and ad that is 7 pages long >when all you need is a 1(at most 2)page ad telling people about the >Amiga and its capabilities. If they did this sorta ad, they probably >could've published it in many more publications than those listed above. Since the end of last year I have seen Amiga print ads (single page) in: 1)AV Video- Keith Nealy AV Video is a trade magazine which has an amiga column, they ran an Amiga art contest last year and will be running an animation contest early 1990. 2)Millimeter- Keith Nealy Millimeter is a MAJOR film and video trade magazine 3)Video Systems- Keith Nealy Another trade mag. 4)Electronic Learning- Dr. Bergman, Howard Diamond (2 pgs) There is also a 16 page Special Supplement to EL that is sponsored by CBM and focuses on multimedia. There are 3 case study ads and two articles that describe how the Amiga is being used in the classroom. It is presented low key without any hype. "Just the facts, mam ..." >People want facts and not famous faces. ... See my first pararaph regarding the TV ads. I don't know about you but neither Keith Nealy, or Dr. Bergman are famous faces to me. And some of us may know who Howard Diamond is (Director of edcuation at CBM) but his face is not famous either. Looking at an apple ad and the Amiga ads in EL and there is a distinctive difference. If you can find copys of both look at them together. Then try to feel the difference between them. When going head to head against someone with the reputation that apple now has in the education market you can't just list resolution, speed, ease of use, the fact that it has "color, sound and graphics." The Amiga ads look different, they feel different. That is what is going to get the consumers attention. "Wow, here is a guy that has based his entire business on the Amiga (Keith Nealy). I've heard about that computer somewhere before." or "Gee, this man is teaching his son with it." It takes some slow moving to get out of quicksand, not a lot of flailing around. It appears to me that Commodore is moving as fast as it can given the fact that it has a limited budget. Building slow market awareness makes more sense to me than trying to do to much at once. If you can't support Commodore about what they are doing invest your energies elsewhere. The amiga doesn't need "bad vibes" it needs support. Steve Morris sjm@udel.edu