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From: ewiles@netxdev.DHL.COM (Edwin Wiles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: C-Ltd
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Date: 23 Jan 90 19:30:48 GMT
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EW>In article <2974@netxcom.DHL.COM>, ewiles@netxdev.UUCP (Edwin Wiles) writes:
EW>	Who's got the better product?  Don't tell me Supra!  Not after
EW>	seeing all those messages!  When I got my C-Ltd drive and
EW>	interface I literally plugged it all together and it worked!
EW>	Now how many Supra's do you know of that they managed to do that with?

JB>In article <9001210144.AA22160@en.ecn.purdue.edu> bevis@EE.ECN.PURDUE.EDU
(Jeff Bevis) writes:
JB>Here's one!  I just plugged it in and it worked!  (acutally, I put together
JB>a customized system, so I had to make a cable and put the drive in a box..)
JB>The software made it very easy to use, and the documentation was pretty good.
JB>Just plugged it all in, booted Supra's floppies, and was guided through
JB>formatting and installation quite simply...  I'm certainly satisified.  It 
JB>worked the first time.  (the first time I ever used a hard drive.)

RH>In article <285@fe2o3.UUCP> rusty@fe2o3.UUCP (Rusty Haddock) writes:
RH>I have to go along with Jeff, my Supra WordSync(TM) SCSI  controller
RH>worked first time and every time after I made the necessary SCSI and
RH>power cables for my Zorro I box  attached to my A1000.  Yes, I  said
RH>Zorro ONE expansion box!

[...EW Again...]

I'll answer both of you as follows.  NEITHER of you "simply plugged it
together and it worked".

Each of you performed customization of one form or another.

Jeff, you had to make a cable, and put the drive into a box.

Rusty, you not only had to make an SCSI cable, you also had to make a power
cable, as well as doing a lot of tech work to make sure whether or not your
setup would work.

Neither of you did what I did, which was to simply plug the power cable into
my drive, and into the wall;  Plug the SCSI cable into the drive, as well as
the SCSI interface box;  Plug the SCSI interface box into the pass-thru on
my Amiga;  Turn everything on, and boot from their floppy.

EACH of you had to peform some special task which I did not have to.  I do not
doubt that you also had to work on formatting your drive, which I did not.
It struck me as particularly appropriate that C-Ltd effectively tested each
drive that they sent out by not only formatting it for use, but also by putting
roughly 10K of public domain software on it.  This assured that it was working
correctly before it ever left their hands.

I've lost count of the number of times that people have posted to this
newsgroup asking for help in preping hard drives purchased from other
dealers, including Supra.  I have yet to see one posting about a C-Ltd
HD in that condition.

I will grant that it appears some people were given a raw deal by C-Ltd,
but I would like to point out that it seems quite a few more were left by
other manufacturers/suppliers with products that they could not use easily
due to a requirement by that manufacturer/supplier that they have technical
knowledge beyond that held by the average person.

RH>Willie Brown about  stuffing their WordSync  controller into my  old
RH>CSA Turbo Amiga  expansion box.   Mr  Brown was  quiet an  enjoyable

While I don't doubt that Mr. Brown was indeed helpful, not everyone can
go to the few Expo's they do have.  To my knowledge, not one has been
within 100 miles of Wash. D.C.  (I might not have seen the notices if
there had been one, but I expect I would, being a regular reader of the
network.)  And carrying on such a conversation over long distance phone
durring buisness hours quickly gets VERY expensive.

Ahhh, well.  I suppose like editors, it's a bit of a religious issue which
is unlikely to be decided over the network.

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