Xref: utzoo news.groups:16739 rec.arts.movies:28881 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!samsung!think!snorkelwacker!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!fluke!moriarty From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) Newsgroups: news.groups,rec.arts.movies Subject: Re: rec.arts.cinema: moderated or not? Message-ID: <14161@fluke.COM> Date: 23 Jan 90 07:48:49 GMT References: <10954@attctc.Dallas.TX.US> <3364@cbnewsj.ATT.COM> <5292@buengc.BU.EDU> Sender: news@tc.fluke.COM Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 54 A few comments on the whole moderation issue: a) Blair's e-mail policing or not, there will be a certain amount of r.a.movies overlap onto rec.arts.cinema; the amount may be minimal, but it may not be, either. Obviously, we all have to put up with a certain amount of static in various groups, but if it goes on in rec.arts.cinema (or whatever the name is), we'll basically end up with rec.arts.movies in stereo, making the moderation of .cinema of more-than-normal value. b) Moderation of rec.arts.cinema is not going to Infringe your Personal Freedoms, if handled as it has been in other moderated groups I've had experience with. I've been submitting articles to rec.arts.movies.reviews for about two years now, and Evelyn Leeper has never given me (or anyone else, as far as I know after scanning r.a.m and n.g) since the groups inception. She leaves what I wrote alone, warts and all, though she's gone Above and Beyond once or twice and dropped me a quick note pointing out some real grammatical or historical boner. In each instance she asked in the most polite terms if I'd like to change it, being quite clear that it was entirely up to me; in almost every case I made the correction, and was thankful that she had pointed it out. I'm certain Manavendra will do as good a job, basically acting as a Subject filter; his last few articles lead me to believe that is just what he envisions the job to be, as well. And if all the Great Power entrusted to rec.arts.cinema moderator ever went to his head and he woke up one morning with a net-fascist complex, I'm sure we'll be able to get him out without bloodshed. Luckily, this condition doesn't seem to afflict real people much. c) Those who see rec.arts.cinema moderation as the first step to a net.dictatorship might do well to step back from it all, and take a deep breath. Personally, I'm a bit more worried about recent Supreme Court decisions and American military actions, but that's what you happens when you get your news from foreign magazines... In summary, I'd have to say that I'll continue to read (and to post) to rec.arts.movies, and that I'll vote yes for rec.arts.cinema (or any sensible name), moderated or not, with the provision that we could turn it into a moderated group later on. I'd rather start it moderated, because I don't believe it would we be detrimental in any way; and there's no guarantee that we'll have as capable a candidate for moderator if we decide to moderate it sometime in the future. While there are very few groups which would benefit from moderation, I do believe that rec.arts.cinema would be one of them. "If God created us in his own image we have more than reciprocated." -- Voltaire --- Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer INTERNET: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM Manual UUCP: {uw-beaver, sun, microsoft, hplsla, uiucuxc}!fluke!moriarty CREDO: You gotta be Cruel to be Kind... <*> DISCLAIMER: Do what you want with me, but leave my employers alone! <*>