Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:9504 rec.ham-radio:16754 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!purdue!haven!decuac!shlump.nac.dec.com!ryn.esg.dec.com!cimnet.dec.com!pierson From: pierson@cimnet.dec.com Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.ham-radio Subject: Re: naive question about RF propagation Message-ID: <797@ryn.esg.dec.com> Date: 15 Jan 90 22:59:08 GMT Sender: guest@ryn.esg.dec.com Followup-To: sci.electronics Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 41 In article <28774@amdcad.AMD.COM>, phil@pepsi.amd.com writes... >We all know that AM broadcast radio fades when you drive under a bridge >but FM doesn't tend to nearly as much. Why is this? Think of it as a shielded enclosure. Shielding effectiveness varies with the size of the opening (road, in this case) with "size" _measured_ in _wavelengths_ at the _frequency_ of interest. In the case of the bridge, this makes it a good shield at 0.55-1.6MHz and a poor one at 88-108MHz. As a useful rule of thumb, any opening with a single dimension greater 10% of a wavelength will start to leak at that frequency, and above... >Does RF at the FM broadcast frequencies propagate better? I would not have used the word "better". Each does propagates differently. IF the 88-108MHZ signal were "off axis" to the road opening and IF there were no random metal around to reflect it, it to would likely fade... >I thought the higher the frequency, the more it exhibited "line of sight" >behavior. I once lost the base transmissions from a nearby city police department, while still getting the mobiles. A little mapwork showed that a new, high level, Interstate bridge was blocking the line of sight to the (high) base antenna. The mobiles were radiating through the space UNDER the bridge... >Or is it because AM shows the signal reduction more directly? AM does show changes in signal strength more directly. Thats why there is... >Shouldn't AGC take care of that? AGC, however, if the signal strength goes down too far, the AGC can't bring it back up. Thanks dave pierson |the facts, as accurately as i can manage, Digital Equipment Corporation |the opinions, my own 600 Nickerson Rd Marlboro, Mass 01752 pierson@cimnet.enet.dec.com