Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:9507 rec.ham-radio:16761 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!psuvax1!rutgers!bellcore!jupiter!karn From: karn@jupiter..bellcore.com (Phil R. Karn) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.ham-radio Subject: Re: naive question about RF propagation Message-ID: <18988@bellcore.bellcore.com> Date: 16 Jan 90 02:22:45 GMT References: <28774@amdcad.AMD.COM> Sender: news@bellcore.bellcore.com Reply-To: karn@jupiter.bellcore.com (Phil R. Karn) Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc Lines: 29 In article <28774@amdcad.AMD.COM> phil@pepsi.amd.com () writes: >We all know that AM broadcast radio fades when you drive under a bridge >but FM doesn't tend to nearly as much. Why is this? Does RF at the FM >broadcast frequencies propagate better? I thought the higher the frequency, >the more it exhibited "line of sight" behavior. Or is it because AM >shows the signal reduction more directly? Shouldn't AGC take care of >that? I might as well take a stab at this one. The reason has to do with the relative wavelengths of the two signals; the modulation method isn't nearly as important. Standard AM broadcast signals have much longer wavelengths than FM. AM signals are "large" relative to the dimensions of a bridge, while FM signals are "small". Radio waves have trouble propagating through small (relative to their wavelength) windows in conducting material. That's why you can easily see into your operating microwave oven without frying your eyeballs. The holes in the metal screen in the door are very large compared to the optical wavelengths you see with, but they're very small compared to the wavelength used for cooking. I've noticed that you can see a difference when driving even between signals at the opposite ends of the AM broadcast band. Stations at the top end aren't nearly as affected by driving under a bridge as stations at the low end. (Note that the AM broadcast band covers almost a 3:1 range in frequency and wavelength.) Phil