Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Bat Plane Bux Message-ID: <13372@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 22 Jan 90 06:02:37 GMT References: <12850@cbnews.ATT.COM> <12981@cbnews.ATT.COM> <13218@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Lines: 25 Approved: military@att.att.com From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) >From: animal@isis.rice.edu (Carl Rosene) >In my original posting I stated my belief that the B2 was the first military >prototype off the production line. Mr. Spencer stated that, in fact, most >prototypes actually come off a production line. I'll concede the point and >blame my mistake on the media. But, I believe he might agree that it has not >been common practice to put the production line at full production before >a flight test program can be completed... It's not usually considered good practice, but it has been done occasionally. The results generally have not been good. The two cases I can remember are the F-100 and F-111. Several F-100s and pilots were lost before a flight- test aircraft went violently out of control (killing the pilot) in a worst- case test, and analysis of the wreckage and instrumentation records finally led to understanding of a nasty stability problem. And roughly half of the total F-111 production run were too far down the line to incorporate the definitive fix for the intake-engine compatibility problems, when it turned out that significant structural changes were needed. The B-2 program is being very optimistic. Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu