Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: dlj@cbnewsh.ATT.COM (david.l.jacobowitz) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Why the F18 for the US Navy ? Summary: fighter ranges Message-ID: <13447@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 24 Jan 90 03:34:53 GMT References: <13345@cbnews.ATT.COM> <13378@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 48 Approved: military@att.att.com From: dlj@cbnewsh.ATT.COM (david.l.jacobowitz) In article <13378@cbnews.ATT.COM>, terryr@ogicse.ogc.edu (Terry Rooker) writes: > The Tomcat doesn't have > much more range than the F-18. As an added advantage, the F-18 also > was able to serve as a replacement for the F-4 on the older, smaller > carriers that couldn't handle the F-14. A final reason was the > astronomical cost of the F-14, the Navy couldn't afford more than 2 > squadrons per air wing. You also have to remember that the F-18 was > replacing A-7s not F-4s or F-14s, so in a pinch the carrier gains 2 > fighter squadrons over what it had previously. Some good points, now let me risk putting my 2 cents in. I dug through some books last night and came up with the following range specifications: F-14 2000mi/3200km (fighter with external fuel) F-18 461mi/741km (fighter mission) 2300mi/3700km (ferry range, no weapons, full external fuel) It looks to me like the F-14's effective combat range is much greater than that of the F-18, while the ferry ranges may be similar (although I seem to remember that with full external fuel and no weapons the ferry range of the F-14 is around 4000 miles--I may be wrong on this figure though). I remember that when the F-18 was being considered by the Navy, short range was one of the problems solved by McDonnel Douglas' redesign of the Northrop YF-17 Cobra. While the 461mi/741km range looks fairly short (I believe it's shorter than the F-4's effective combat range), it is in fact greater than the fighter range of the F-16, which was approximately 340mi/550km (fighter, full internal fuel, no external fuel). Second, I thought the F-18 did in fact replace some F-4's. After the F-14 was brought into service, some F-4's were retained on the big carriers to perform the mission of bomber escort, i.e. fighter protection of the A-7s. The F-14 was thought to be too big and complicated (and expensive) to be used as a bomber escort. When the F-18 was brought into service, it replaced these F-4s. I did not dig deep enough though to find actual squadron deployments to support this paragraph though. -- Dave J. (ark2!dlj) This space intentionally usual disclaimer implied left blank.