Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!wuarchive!mailrus!umich!caen.engin.umich.edu!zarnuk From: zarnuk@caen.engin.umich.edu (Paul Steven Mccarthy) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Chess, Reductionism. Summary: Okay, so flame me. I think philosophy belongs elsewhere... Message-ID: <49332c1a.1285f@maize.engin.umich.edu> Date: 15 Mar 90 02:49:00 GMT References: <491fffd5.1a4d7@cicada.engin.umich.edu> <2080@aipna.ed.ac.uk> <492e6ff2.1a4d7@cicada.engin.umich.edu> Reply-To: zarnuk@caen.UUCP (Paul Steven Mccarthy) Followup-To: philosophy somewhere... (please?) Organization: caen (U Mich) Lines: 20 (S. Narasimhan) writes: >>>>(Paul Mccarthy) writes: [Everything is a consequence of the >>>> of the laws of physics] >>>(Chris Malcolm) asks: [...How is {some aspect of chess} a >>> consequence of the laws of physics?...] >>(Paul McCarthy) responds: >> [Chess <-- Human Pleasure <-- Nuero-Chemistry <-- Physics... >> history of game, Probablistic Determinism...] >(S. Narasimhan) objects: > [ ...Laws of physics vs reality... ontology... Pitfalls of causality...] This is definitely straying very far away from my original statement. The original assertion was simply that arguments based on "emergent properties" do not convince me, since I am a reductionist. ---Paul... (The opinions expressed are obviously mine, unless you share them. :-)