Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!jarthur!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!pacbell!att!cbnewsc!bwong From: bwong@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (bruce.f.wong) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Single user vs. shared (was Re: Killer Micros and vectorized code) Message-ID: <14496@cbnewsc.ATT.COM> Date: 19 Mar 90 15:34:09 GMT References: <1990Mar18.023523.4034@ultra.com> Reply-To: bwong@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (bruce.f.wong,55239,ihp,1a111,312 416 5111) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 59 In article <1990Mar18.023523.4034@ultra.com> shj@ultra.com (Steve Jay) writes: >brooks@maddog.llnl.gov (Eugene Brooks) writes: ... >>Computers are best utilized as shared resources, your Killer Micros should >>be many to a box and sitting in the computer room where the fan noise does >>not drive you nuts. This is where I keep MY Killer Micros. ... >If someone measured the time that I spend using the stapler, tape >dispenser, or pocket calculator that I have in my office, they'd ... >Obviously, single user work stations are not yet so cheap as to be in >the same category as staplers. But, a $20,000 workstation dedicated >to a > $100,000/year engineer or scientist doesn't seem that outrageous. >The argument that an idle CPU is a wasted CPU becomes less and less >convincing as the cost comes down. An idle CPU that I can use when- >ever I want, which is then 100% dedicated to me when I want it, could >be the way to optimize MY time. Improving people productivity is the >name of the game, not improving computer utilization. ... >Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Dagget Drive / San Jose, CA 95134 / USA Your company, "home of the 1 gigabit network", is making computers easier to share. Sharing computing resources on a network should not be equated to the bad old days of timesharing. The computing network can be engineered to give 100% of the processing power a $100k scientist needs to get the work done in the proper manner. When extra computing resources are available (fellow $100k scientist stepped out to get a coffee and jelly donut) they will get more than 100%. Staplers and tape dispensers can't be pushed across a wire or fiber so sharing is very inconvienent but computing power can. In almost all situations it doesn't matter that the application ran on a machine or machines that are located 1 kilometer away instead of a machine sitting close enough for you to kick. The only pieces of equipment that a computer user should be allowed to physically abuse are those that are needed for interaction with the computing network: display, keyboard, mouse; essentially human I/O devices. An X terminal fits the bill. (Also, an X terminal will become obsolete at a slower rate than a super-mini or killer micro; a business argument that I will not develop here) I think this is more of a psychological issue than a technical or business issue. The attitudes that I encounter when I propose such a sharing scheme can be summed as: "You mean that someone will be using *MY* workstation!" My reply: "Calm down, you'll be using our computing network." (There's also a case for mips envy: mine is -----er than yours.) Finally, the cost argument doesn't negate the advantages of sharing, it just makes sharing cheaper. Note that SUN trumpets: ``The Network is the Computer.'' Note also that SUN is not offering X terminals like DEC, DG, MIPSco... -- Bruce F. Wong ATT Bell Laboratories att!iexist!bwong 200 Park Plaza, Rm 1B-232 708-713-5111 Naperville, Ill 60566-7050