Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!cluster!yar From: yar@cs.su.oz (Ray Loyzaga) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Single user vs. shared (was Re: Killer Micros and vectorized code) Message-ID: <782@cluster.cs.su.oz> Date: 20 Mar 90 05:49:47 GMT References: <51771@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <100598@convex.convex.com> <52661@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <1990Mar18.023523.4034@ultra.com> <52817@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <1990Mar19.220617.26370@world.std.com> Sender: news@cluster.cs.su.oz Reply-To: yar@cluster.cs.su.oz (Ray Loyzaga) Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia Lines: 31 Try answering this question, "What will be the most cost effective solution for a company (given limited system administration resources) which employs 10 skilled computer application users. 10 killer micros of the ~10mips class costing $25k each or 1 or 2 killer RISCS of the 50-100Mip class with X-terminals? The upfront costs will be very close, the killer micros being slightly cheaper. Eg, 2xRC6280 ~$300k, 10Xterms $30k (total $330k, 10 Sparc1 $250k). Remember you need to have enough disk and memory (32Mb)! It is no use comparing 10 X-terminals on a 10 mip machine as opposed to 10 10 mips workstations. I think I would rather be on the RC6280's, they would have the benefit of centralized backups, large memories, easier admin, better ability to share resources and conduct group work. Upgrades to memory/disk benefit all users, all the technical staff can work on the few grunt boxes and they will be using the same resources as the users. If they have really nice workstations you will find that they will not maintain other workstations to the same level. The users (probably engineers or similar) can concentrate on the tasks they are being paid for rather than learning how to administer a Unix machine. The same argument goes for a teaching environment where the user does not need to control the console of a system to get their work done, all they want is the limited graphics bandwidth that a windowing terminal provides. When the RC6280's run out of steam, you do your shopping, and buy next years version of somebodys super-scalar multi-cpu RISC box, and no-one need know, the X-terms can stay (what is everyone going to do with their sun3's now that sparcstations are all the rage? They would make great X-terms.