Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lupine!ed From: ed@lupine.UUCP (Ed Basart) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Single user vs. shared (was Re: Summary: X wins the desktop, Killer X terminals Keywords: X-terminals, process/task distribution Message-ID: <1087@lupine.UUCP> Date: 22 Mar 90 06:40:27 GMT References: <52817@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <76700181@p.cs.uiuc.edu> <11731@nlm-mcs.arpa> Organization: Network Computing Devices, Mtn View, CA Lines: 58 Obviously I am biased (due to my employment situation), but I believe X terminals have a semi-permanent advantage over workstations. The real difference between a workstation and an X terminal (or in our ergot, network display station), is the fact that one can build a point product that purely runs X, avoids all the trash, and is consequently highly integrated and "cheaper" and sometimes "better". Workstations are low cost (read microprocessor-based) computers with a display plopped on top. Network display stations go one step further by first starting with the display, and wrapping "just enough" hardware around it to get it to work effectively. In the case of diskless workstations versus network display stations, I think many observers would agree that battles rage on, but that network display stations have won the war. Diskless workstations are an abomination and aberration that were contrived to reduce cost. The result is an amputated system sliced through some rather important arteries. Just put your sniffer on a network of diskless nodes and watch the flow of blood that is paging traffic. So, when one views a workstation as a general purpose platform that has to keep getting faster and faster, with ever more memory, disc, and floating point (remember many resources must be added to feed the ravenous appetite of Un*x), it will cost more than "display-only" network display with its relatively simple operating environment. If workstations evolve to become more like network display stations, then we will be back to the CISC versus RISC arguments that have given us all such entertaining reading here in this forum. As long as the workstation is a pile of boxes and add-in boards, they will always cost more than the corresponding X terminal. And suppose that soothsayers are right, costs plummit and a diskful workstation may cost $499 and an X terminal $475, but who cares? As long as the X terminal remains dedicated to a single, simple function it will work better and be the desktop device of choice because it has 1 million less lines of code to worry about. Borrowing a line from Eugene Brooks: THERE IS NO ESCAPE FROM THE ATTACK OF THE KILLER X TERMINALS (I had to put that in caps so that folks can hear me over the roar of the fans in their workstations.) -- Ed Basart, 350 N. Bernardo Ave., Mountain View, CA 94043, (415)694-0650 uunet!lupine!ed