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From: wallwey@boulder.Colorado.EDU (WALLWEY DEAN WILLIAM)
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Subject: Re: Single user vs. shared (was Re:
Keywords: X-terminals, process/task distribution
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Date: 22 Mar 90 19:24:30 GMT
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In article <1199@fs1.ee.ubc.ca> mikeb@salmon.ee.ubc.ca writes:
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>In article <18713@boulder.Colorado.EDU>, wallwey@boulder.Colorado.EDU
>(WALLWEY DEAN WILLIAM) writes:
>
>A whole bunch of stuff about the imminent death of UNIX workstations. 
>
I don't think there will be a death of UNIX workstations, but I think
that you will see people in the 90's buying PC's in places where UNIX
workstations commenly fill.  Unix Workstations I hope will move up to
a higher plane!  X is slow and clunky to say the least!  You can get 
decent performance on X-terminals or Expensive workstation pretty much
dedicated to a single user, but that is expensive!  How much does it
cost to set up Sun Lab with 20 workstations and good printing
facilities?

By the way MicroSoft has recently been reporting that they are selling
more copies of little O' MSWindows than Apple is selling Macintoshes!
I can guaranty APPLE corp is selling more Machintoshes, than Sun
is selling Sun Workstations!!  Granted MSwindows is not a real
operating system, but most of the people running MSWindows will be
capable of running OS/2 (a real operating system by most peoples
standards) with more memory!


>Superb satire.  Thank you.

If you really think that is satire, prove me wrong point by point----
Also when I mean Attack or the Killer PC, I'm talking about just pure
numbers.

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>But just in case that message was real..
> 
>|> Postscript.  This means that also an OS/2 shop can use $1000 laser
>|> printers rather than $6000 ones that a Unix shop would be required to
>|> use to get the same quality of output!
>
>Our Sun cluster uses an Apple LaserWriter, an HP LaserJet, and a TI printer.
>Identical those used on PC's.   A serial port is a serial port.

Do they all produce the same quality output from all the programs you
can run on your Sun cluster----Here at CU, all of our workstations, and
our VAX cluster use Postscript to get out good quality.  If you can
really get as good of output on the HP LaserJet doing graphics and
scalable fonts as you can on a postscript printer, I and I am sure
others would like to know how.  

>
>Now can we get back to architecture discussions?

I agree this is not the place for discussions of operating systems, or
X or even shared vs single user systems except in the context of arch.
Let's move this discussion to mail or another News Group.

>
>------
>Mike Bolotski, Department of Electrical Engineering,
>               University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada 
>mikeb@salmon.ee.ubc.ca             | mikeb%salmon.ee.ubc.ca@relay.ubc.ca
>salmon.ee.ubc.ca!mikeb@uunet.uu.net| uunet!ubc-cs!salmon.ee.ubc.ca!mikeb

The above is not a flame--And no solution is perfect or acceptable in
all situations, but I think via PC's "workstation" environments are
going to be seen a lot more!

Dean Wallwey