Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: ceb@csli.stanford.edu (Charles Buckley) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Warning: Defective "Bell" Phone Being Sold Message-ID: <5144@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 14 Mar 90 18:30:01 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 57 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 171, Message 4 of 9 It seems a bit sad, that the Bell name is now being put on inferior merchandise, but that seems to be the case. This refers to a phone I recently bought. It carries the modernized bell-in-a-circle logo at the top, and the words "BELL(tm) Phones" in big letters, followed by (in smaller letters) "by Northwestern Bell Phones". The model number is Techline 2702S, and a quick check of the back indicates the set was made in Korea. The problem is something very simple, that even the old faithful 500 or 2500 sets didn't have: if you set the receiver down on a flat hard surface (like a desktop) with the mouthpiece and earpiece down, you generate a feedback squeal, which is disturbing to the party on the other end, to say the least. I have seen this happen on two sets of the same model, so I know it's a design defect, and not a manufacturing one. This was confirmed by the manufacturing rep - see below. Having noticed the problem, I tried several different handsets of the same style made by other companies (made in Hong Kong, Taiwan, etc. - sigh), and none of them had this problem. Northwestern Bell Phones provides an 800 number for service problems, which I called using their product. I demonstrated the problem in real-time, and the rep replied: "Oh yes, that's a problem with all the Techline phones [there are 4 models], but you know, you're going to get that with any phone made." I told her it was not true, and promptly switched to a handset made by another company and demonstrated my point. I told her I would not be put off so easily. I also allowed as noise cancelling was not a new innovation, and was even cheap to implement, and there was no excuse for not doing so. At this point, she asked me to hold while she consulted a technician. I waited, and she came back and said "Well, I just talked to our technician, and he said the same thing I said. You're welcome to send it in for service, but we're not going to find anything wrong with it." I allowed as this was unacceptable, and stated I wanted my money back. At this point she stated flat out "We do not give refunds.", and she repeated this several times as I tried to reason with her. I finally gave up. The case is so clearcut, and the matter so badly handled, that I feel I must resort to a posting here. If anyone from Northwestern Bell reads this list, I would suggest you do something about your marketing organization - poor-quality products and insolent, intimidating, lying service reps won't get you very far. The Bell name took years to develop a good reputation, and it seems that this capital is being squandered by those who now use it. Maybe some of the other firms earning money off the Bell logo might want to have a word with Northwestern Bell Phones as well, in their own interest.