Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: Matthias Urlichs Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Billing and Answer Supervision Message-ID: <5376@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 19 Mar 90 09:55:57 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG Lines: 40 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 186, Message 4 of 9 In comp.dcom.telecom, article <5289@accuvax.nwu.edu>, hrs1@cbnewsi.ATT.COM (herman.r.silbiger) writes: < For those subscribers to PTTs which only bill in message units who < want to check on their bills, or perhaps know how much each call < costs, the PTT will rent you a device with a counter. This counter < will give you the unit counts, and you can then check the bill at the < end of the month. One problem is that this counter is incremented by a high-frequency beep (16 kHz?), so you can't run a "normal" modem on that line. (MNP and/or PEP is OK.) One might assume that 16 kHz should not disturb modems, which use lower frequencies. Unfortunately, the PTT plays some dirty games with the line to make sure that the beep is not propagated to the other end. The other problem is that this counter has absolutely zero legal significance. You say "Did not", PTT says "Did too", and that ends the argument. If there's a real problem with billing, it usually takes lots of phone calls to convince them that something may indeed be wrong, and then they will send you a crew of repairmen (one at a time) to test your installation (consisting of calling the line test machine (which pronounces the line OK), asking some non-pertinent questions, and leaving) before they even think of searching for the bug at their side. :-( And we have not even talked about trying to get part of your money back. :-( :-( < By the way, a non-trivial fraction of your cost of telephone service, < both local area and inter-LATA, is due to the cost of billing. This statement, unfortunately, makes sense. Matthias Urlichs