Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!dsl.pitt.edu!dsl.pitt.edu!sean From: sean@dsl.pitt.edu (Sean McLinden) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: CMOT Implementations Message-ID: <1990Mar17.062619.6200@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu> Date: 17 Mar 90 06:26:19 GMT References: <9003161713.AA01109@trwind.TRW.COM> <9003170417.AA26725@psi.com> Sender: news@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu (Usenet News System) Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA. Lines: 31 In article <9003170417.AA26725@psi.com> schoff@PSI.COM ("Martin Lee Schoffstall") writes: > >Now the question is will SNMP knock out CMIP itself in the area of NMS/agent >management within the OSI stack. I sincerely hope not. SNMP is probably adequate for the task of network management of networks and the full implementation of CMIP is, most likely, overkill for what are basic network management tasks, but when you start talking about the management of network objects that represent the state of the real world (I mean, the computers are there to support more than their network connections!) is when you see the real power of a protocol like CMIP. At the risk of sounding heretical, my personal opinion is that an implementation of CMOT would make TCP/IP sufficiently robust as to make it an attractive competitor to OSI (at least until we run out of addresses). To put this another way, the real appeal of OSI (and there are a lot of unappealing things about it), is not the market hype but what is the OSI concept of information as it exists in communities (an idea retrofitted to TCP/IP with such tools as XDR, RPC, Threads...). With a generalized interface to what is network information a la CM{IP,OT} you have a pretty powerful system which has the advantage of being widely available across multiple architectures. Until full implementations of the OSI stack become widely available CMOT would extend the functionality of TCP/IP as an OSI prototyping tool for, at least, the next few years, allowing for the applications to be developed in parallel with the network. Sean McLinden Decision Systems Laboratory University of Pittsburgh