Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cornell!oravax!ian From: ian@oravax.UUCP (Ian Sutherland) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Re: "Program Proving" Message-ID: <1424@oravax.UUCP> Date: 16 Mar 90 00:36:25 GMT References: <52044@microsoft.UUCP> <2480006@hpcuhc.HP.COM> <18190@duke.cs.duke.edu> Reply-To: ian@oravax.odyssey.UUCP (Ian Sutherland) Organization: Odyssey Research Associates, Ithaca, New York Lines: 20 In article <18190@duke.cs.duke.edu> crm@romeo.UUCP (Charlie Martin) writes: >In article <2480006@hpcuhc.HP.COM> runyan@hpcuhc.HP.COM (Mark Runyan) writes: >>As an alternative, someone could post a non-trivial program and ask the >>program provers to prove it either correct or incorrect... >Um, it doesn't really work that way, [...] >What one needs to do in a proven program is construct the program with >provability in mind. [...] Sure, sure, and if somebody posts something I think I have a chance of getting through Ariel, I may modify it to make it easier to verify. If I do this, my intent will be to remain faithful to the original program. I'm willing to take the chance that many people may scream that I changed the program beyond recognition. -- ------ Ian Sutherland ian%oravax.uucp@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu Sans Peur