Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!longway!std-unix From: fred@mindcraft.com (Fred Zlotnick) Newsgroups: comp.std.unix Subject: ANSI C symbols supported by POSIX Message-ID: <563@longway.TIC.COM> Date: 15 Mar 90 20:02:46 GMT Sender: std-unix@longway.TIC.COM Reply-To: std-unix@uunet.uu.net Organization: Mindcraft, Inc. Lines: 46 Approved: jsq@longway.tic.com (Moderator, John S. Quarterman) From: fred@mindcraft.com (Fred Zlotnick) In Mark Horton's new book, Portable C Software (Prentice-Hall), there are tables describing which symbols are supported from which headers in each of various systems and standards. Looking at the table for , I noticed that the symbols stdin, stdout and stderr are marked as not supported in POSIX. At first I thought that this was an error, but now I'm not so sure. General question: Which symbols from the ANSI C header namespace are guaranteed to be available to a Strictly Conforming POSIX Application? Specific question: Can a Strictly Conforming POSIX Application use "stdin", for example by calling "getc(stdin)"? Arguments about the specific question: Yes, because... ...the POSIX standard supports getchar(), whose semantics are adopted from the C Standard where they are defined to be getc(stdin). ...the POSIX standard defines the symbol STDIN_FILENO as the file descriptor associated with stdin (8.2.1.2), so by implication stdin is supported. No, because... ...The POSIX Standard specifically names the symbols and terms adopted from the C Standard, in section 2.8.1, and stdin is not among them. Obviously similar arguments exist about stdout/stderr. Note that the symbols stdin, stdout and stderr are unambiguously part of the reserved name space (at least, if _POSIX_SOURCE is defined in the right place.) That's not the issue, though, as the names "signal" and "mbtowc" are also part of the reserved name space but those functions are not supported. Fred Zlotnick -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fred Zlotnick | "You can't overlook, the lack, Jack, fred@mindcraft.com | of any other highway to ride." ...!{decwrl,ames,hpda}!mindcrf!fred | Volume-Number: Volume 18, Number 75