Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!ames!dftsrv!xrtnt From: xrtnt@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Nigel Tzeng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: One more try... Message-ID: <1424@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> Date: 21 Mar 90 14:42:18 GMT References: <39009@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> <133211@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> Sender: news@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov Reply-To: xrtnt@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD, USA Lines: 54 In article <133211@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>, cmcmanis@stpeter.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) writes... ^In article <39009@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> (Andy Hartman) writes: ^> Just because a guy doesn't know what ECM stands for in FA/18 doesn't ^> mean he is a pirate. Maybe he is, either way, keep it to yourself. ^> A pirate takes risks. Let him. There is no reason for you to be his ^> conscience. ^ ^An important point Andy is that our current law enforcement system doesn't ^go after pirating and thus it is ineffective in preventing it. However, ^the non-pirates are hurt by the pirates by paying more for software and ^sometimes have the company that supports their program go out of business. ^Therefore the only way to curb piracy today is to flame them mercilessly ^and publiclly. When a pirate reads how much shit someone caught for not ^knowing what ECM meant is he or she going to risk asking a question themselves? ^The answer is no, they won't. And that means that pirated programs are ^marginally less valuable because their greatest information resource, Usenet, ^won't cough up information that is in the manual that they didn't pay for. ^ ^This is a social response to the problem. And to the extent that people ^want to be respected on Usenet (in this society) there is some social ^pressure not to be pirates. Amiga users and Amiga users groups have to ^to be loud and obnoxious whenever a pirate is discoverd to help discourage ^them. This society can't send a pirate to jail, but they can make someone ^an outcast. And often one of the motivations for piracy is the desire to ^"belong" to something. ^ ^ ^--Chuck McManis ^uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: Internet: cmcmanis@Eng.Sun.COM ^These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you. ^"If it didn't have bones in it, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?!" Well Chuck...IF you intend to make piracy such a social stigma maybe you ought to make sure the person you are turning into an outcast IS a pirate. I've seen responses to hardware problems along the lines of "well machines that do flakey things usually have viruses...are you a pirate or something?" Which implies that anyone unlucky enough to catch a virus is a pirate and that there are no hardware faults on the Amigas. Neither statement is true. Piracy is a CRIME. If you insist on claiming that someone IS a pirate I suggest that you have some sort of proof. Also while you cannot send a pirate to jail easily, if you can find out his source (a BBS for example) you can get it shut down. There is no need for a Spanish Inquisitions or obnoxiousness. NT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A| Nigel Tzeng xrtnt@csdr.gsfc.nasa.gov // m| STX Inc. xrtnt@csdr.span.nasa.gov // i| \\ // g| Standard Disclaimer Applies: The opinions expressed are my own. \X/ a| | "Hmmmm." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------