Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!muslix.llnl.gov!jac From: jac@muslix.llnl.gov (James Crotinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Amiga outclassed Message-ID: <53218@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Date: 21 Mar 90 17:09:16 GMT References: <90078.164636JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu> <11886@vdsvax.crd.ge.com> Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV Reply-To: jac@muslix.llnl.gov.UUCP (James Crotinger) Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory/UC Davis Lines: 38 I saw a demonstration of the new Macs and A/UX 2.0 yesterday. The new Mac IIfx was impressive, but I'll keep my SparcStation, thank you. A/UX 2.0 was sort of a good-news/bad-news thing. Being an Amiga lover I thought that this just might be a combination that I could like--UNIX which would run virtually all Mac applications (even non- 32 bit clean ones). As has probably been mentioned, what they did was to port Multifinder to run as an A/UX kernal task. When you log in you are presented with what looks basically like an ordinary Mac running multifinder, except that you can now fire up a shell window! This all sounds wonderful. Now for the bad news. Mac applications running under Multifinder are, well, Mac applications running under Multifinder. They are not UNIX tasks. They don't do pre-emptive multitasking amongst themselves. Multifinder itself is a UNIX task and as such it, and applications running under it, do multitask with other UNIX tasks. But unfriendly Mac applications can still bring the Multifinder interface to its knees. Furthermore, Mac applications aren't protected from eachother. I asked what happens if a Mac application crashes. They hemmed and hawed a bit and said that it would crash multifinder and throw you back to the login prompt. However someone in the audience said that in practice this can actually cause a reboot! So, an A/UX mac does manage to add a CLI (and a UNIX one at that) to the Mac system. This certainly is one of the big gripes us Amigans have had with the Mac in the past. However you still do not get true multitasking. The lack of memory protection would, for me, rule it out as an alternative to another UNIX workstation. However when viewed as an alternative to the Amiga (albeit a very expensive alternative) this is simply the status quo. BTW, I was very impressed with the speed of the windowing interface (ie Multifinder). It appeared to be much more responsive than X11R4 running on my SparcStation. They were running it on a IIfx, but that is still probably a factor of 2 less horsepower than the sparc. They ran a spirograph line drawing demo and it was blazingly fast. Jim