Xref: utzoo comp.sys.apple:23728 comp.sys.mac:50858 comp.sys.apple2:241 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!rpi!uupsi!rodan!wwtaroli From: wwtaroli@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Bill Taroli) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Accepting the Mac (was Re: More Macweek Rumors) Message-ID: <2475@rodan.acs.syr.edu> Date: 18 Mar 90 09:25:00 GMT References: <1848@crash.cts.com> <18491@boulder.Colorado.EDU> <12667@thorin.cs.unc.edu> Reply-To: wwtaroli@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Bill Taroli) Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY Lines: 46 Well, I certainly hope I could take a view of this issue from both sides since I used a //e for 5 years and then moved over to the Mac. Generally, I agree with your sentiment that it would be nice to have some sort of IIgs emulation on a Mac (probably a NuBus card, with supporting software) for those IIgs users who would like the extra functionality of the Mac without having to dispose of all their II software. However, I (and I believe Apple) differ in your opinion that this effort should be undertaken by Apple. It is my understanding that Apple, throughout its history, has not developed such products, leaving them to third party developers. If you want to scream at someone for such hardware, scream at them. I really don't understand why such bickering persists between these two "camps." As you point out so nicely, these are two very different machines. Thus, it should come as no surprise that they develop differently. Granted, I can identify with your (and other II users') feelings that they have somehow been cheated. But consider the viewpoint of the Mac users... How would you like it if, a week after your purchased the latest and greatest of the Mac world Apple introduces a newer, more expensive model that you like even better (and may have purchased had it been available)? Granted, this exaggerates things a bit, but then quite a bit of that goes on in these discussions. I'm sure you wouldn't be too pleased. In addition, this creates a nightmare as far as new users are concerned... "which one of these is the right one for me??" So, while we have benefitted (in one sense) from more product development, we suffer from a bit of confusion surrounding the "improvments" in the different models available. In contrast, the II line benefits via third parties in that there is one stable hardware platform to work from... versus a shaky software platform (try cleaning up the System Apple!!!) and a myriad of hardware configurations. I think that all this arguing between II users and Mac users serves no purpose and is generally a waste of effort. If you really want to have an impact, complain to those people who can change this situation.... those wonderful, bureaucratic folks at Apple! :-) -- "I'm sorry, you'll have to call your local Apple dealer." -- Apple customer "service" Bill Taroli WWTAROLI@RODAN.acs.syr.edu -- ******************************************************************************* * Bill Taroli (WWTAROLI@RODAN.acs.syr.edu) | "You can and must understand * * Syracuse University, Syracuse NY | computers NOW!" -- Ted Nelson * *******************************************************************************