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From: nrjwong@lion.waterloo.edu
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Subject: Re: Accepting the Mac (was Re: More Macweek Rumors)
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Date: 17 Mar 90 02:28:36 GMT
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In article <12667@thorin.cs.unc.edu> certain@washington.cs.unc.edu (Andrew Certain) writes:
>In article <18491@boulder.Colorado.EDU> kuo@boulder.Colorado.EDU
>(Andy Y.A. Kuo) writes:
>
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>Let's take stock here.  WHen the GS came out in, I believe, 1986, the top
>of the line Mac was an SE.  That means there have been 5 new Mac models
>(the II, IIx, IIcx, IIci and SE/30) relesed since then with NO new
>Apple II models released.  That sounds to me like a lack of support.  Think
>about how much you would complain if Apple didn't release a new Mac for
>4 years while release 5 new models on another line.  I don't think we're
>being hard to please.  I think you're not seeing both sides of the issue.

The Mac SE and II were introduced at the same time, I believe, in
spring of 1987. So there have been six models since the IIgs came out.
Didn't they release a IIc+ since the introduction of the IIgs?

I think another problem is the 65816 itself. WDC is getting 12MHz
samples going. If you look at Motorola, they're sampling the 68040,
which gets about 20MIPS to the gallon. I don't think a 12 MHz 65816
will be close. Don't know about the ASIC chip. Then there's the
basic architecture of the 65816 - to me, it's only slightly better
than an 8086. If the '816 had come out 3-4 years earlier, it would've
helped the Apple II line a lot more, IMHO. A 65832 would've
helped a lot.

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>
>Andrew Certain
>certain@cs.unc.edu

Johnny Lee
jlee4@orchid.waterloo.edu