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From: siegel@endor.harvard.edu (Rich Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Obligatory beginning-Mac-programmer questions
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Date: 15 Mar 90 12:56:53 GMT
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In article <7179@goofy.Apple.COM> chewy@apple.com (Paul Snively) writes:
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>Rich is oversimplifying just a little here.  The MacApp that THINK Pascal 
>3.0 compiles "practically out of the box" is MacApp 2.0b9; THINK has done 
>a very good job of providing conversion tools that handle the general 
>case, but my experiences in attempting to convert versions of MacApp later 
>than 2.0b9 haven't been very successful.  Which is not to say that THINK 
>did anything wrong; they were in the unfortunate position of having to 
>ship before Apple made MacApp 2.0 final.  C'est la vie.

A couple of things worth noting:

	1) MacApp 2.0b9 is the latest shipping version from APDA. As far as I'm
concerned, it's not particularly important that anything other than APDA-
released versions of MacApp are supported. It takes me a pair of 16-hour
days to figure out the changes and implement new tweaks and find the problems
and recommend some changes to Steve Friedrich.

	2) Versions since 2.0b9 have introduced significant archtectural
changes - changes which, in my humble opinion, should bever be made this
late in the beta cycle.

	3) MacApp will compile practically out of the box as far as most
prospective users are concerned: all they need to do is install MacApp
as instructed by the MacApp docs, install the THINK MacApp compatibility
package as instructed by our doc, run the converter, and that's it. No
manual changes to MacApp are required. The automatic changes which are
applied address differences in runtime architecture between THINK Pascal
and MPW Pascal; the MacApp group has been more than helpful in making
changes to MacApp to accomodate differences in the two compilers and 
linkers.

Sorry to sound snappish, but I've spent the past two 16-hour days getting
MacApp 2.0b12 to work.

R.



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